Lee Enfield Cutaway

[Peter Laidler]

Mmmmmmmmmm! Seemingly, the current opinion of those experts inhabiting the non-real M-M police, AND their resident expert, it IS capable of discharging, even if the shot, bullet or other like missile leaves the 'thing' sideways and catastrophically fails as it does so. Don't blame me, I'm just the bringer of this latest opinion from the real experts

[harry mac]

Mmmmmmmmmm! Seemingly, the current opinion of those experts inhabiting the non-real M-M police, AND their resident expert, it IS capable of discharging, even if the shot, bullet or other like missile leaves the 'thing' sideways and catastrophically fails as it does so. Don't blame me, I'm just the bringer of this latest opinion from the real experts

To the letter of the law, this is correct. With "the powers that be's" attitude to firearms (at least in this country), if it's not already been done, I'd have the bolt face chamfered on the "blind" side and the bolt seruptitiously tac welded shut.

[mrclark303]

It's ridiculous guys, whatever happened to common sense!

[harry mac]

I think it must have got on a bus and f***ed off somewhere sunny and warm.

[josh_676]

Post1, photo2, seems to show a chambered round which may suggest a functioning or semi functioning bolt. You may just want to take it into, a local to you, registered and suitably qualified firearms dealer to inspect and just make sure that it is legal for you to own where you live. Australia is probably like the U.K. in that ignorance of the law is no defence.

Thanks mate - it has been inspected by Police and is deactivated to the correct specs, a LGS gave it it's final nails in the coffin, as you are correct in pure cutaway form it was still a firearm.

[Flying10uk]

Thanks mate - it has been inspected by Police and is deactivated to the correct specs, a LGS gave it it's final nails in the coffin, as you are correct in pure cutaway form it was still a firearm.

Thanks Josh, I was mainly thinking about the bolt, in my my last post, as it appeared to be capable of chambering a round and your photos didn't show how much deactivation the bolt had. However, I am not familiar with Australian firearms legislation, hence why I suggested getting it inspected by a suitably qualified firearms dealer local to you. I note, in your last post, that you have already had it inspected by police.

A nice cutaway, whoever did it and I wouldn't think that you would have too much trouble selling it. I would have thought that some sort of militaria or general antiques auction would be your best bet for selling it, somewhere that doesn't charge too much if it doesn't sell. I could see good interest in this item at the right auction but I would protect it with a sensible reserve.

[mrclark303]

To the letter of the law, this is correct. With "the powers that be's" attitude to firearms (at least in this country), if it's not already been done, I'd have the bolt face chamfered on the "blind" side and the bolt seruptitiously tac welded shut.

I don't think I would weld the bolt shut, I would insure it had been weakened though (as per the original SKN sectional bolt bodies), with the bolt head angled away and the firing pin hole welded up and ground back.

I saw the below mod carried out effectively on an SKN a while ago as a bit of 'extra work' carried out by an RFD.

Instead of simply welding the FP hole, the bolt head was first counter bored with a 6 mm drill, then welded inside and out.

The resulting welded and dished (plus chamfered)bolt head is beyond returning to serviceable condition.


Another idea would be to weld and refinish the back of the cocking pieces to prevent easy refitting of a serviceable FP.

I suppose I can see in the snow flake filled, paranoid society we live in today, where all legislation is provided for the stupid and criminally minded, the short (intact chamber) SKN actions could possibly have a live round discharged, if you are mad/stupid enough and fancy a broken wrist .... or worse...

But to say an instructional action with large parts milled away (specifically chamber and barrel) is classified as a firearm is insane, it's no more a firearm than my hoover or kettle!

[Buccaneer]

It's regarded as a non Firearm by any sensible police force or "defectively deactivated" (i.e, not to whatever deac spec the EU are using this week) for those forces that insist on putting it in that category in the UK F10.

Providing no pressure baring parts are reusable, it's clearly incapable of discharging anything what so ever.

In fact, with those slots in the barrel, it couldn't even discharge a fart!

Sorry guys I have to disagree, if you look above the REPRO you can see the remains of old military proof marks and also a VII, it might have been assembled form a pile of old parts that were never actually in the same rifle but I think reassembled rather than Repro might have been more correct.
Now we come to the stupid bit, as already mentioned the clowns in the EU reworked the Deact regulations that are supposed to apply to all members of the EU, they did this not once but twice in two years and whilst I totally agree that any right minded person or police force would realise that this is a none functioning rife arm and could never be made or altered into becoming one it still does not meet the specification as laid down by the EU commission.
I have a very similar cut away No4 rifle, I took it with me on a trip to the Birmingham proof house and asked if they would declare it as deactivated and they stated that as it did not meet the current EU specification it would still be classed as a section 1 rifle, crazy yes, stupid yes, but sadly in this overbearing age in which we now live very very true.

[Homer]

Is this firearm in UK or Australia?

[mrclark303]

Sorry guys I have to disagree, if you look above the REPRO you can see the remains of old military proof marks and also a VII, it might have been assembled form a pile of old parts that were never actually in the same rifle but I think reassembled rather than Repro might have been more correct.
Now we come to the stupid bit, as already mentioned the clowns in the EU reworked the Deact regulations that are supposed to apply to all members of the EU, they did this not once but twice in two years and whilst I totally agree that any right minded person or police force would realise that this is a none functioning rife arm and could never be made or altered into becoming one it still does not meet the specification as laid down by the EU commission.
I have a very similar cut away No4 rifle, I took it with me on a trip to the Birmingham proof house and asked if they would declare it as deactivated and they stated that as it did not meet the current EU specification it would still be classed as a section 1 rifle, crazy yes, stupid yes, but sadly in this overbearing age in which we now live very very true.

Interesting point .... You generally get sensible, common sense information from the Birmingham Proof house, how can a rifle that's incapable of discouraging anything, be classified as a firearm?

If they are using the logic that it doesn't meet current EU specs, therefore its "live", then all older spec deacs also don't meet EU specs can no longer regarded as "defectively deactivated" and must also be live!