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    Canadian Marks on S&W .455 HE MK II

    I am looking for information on a mark found on the butt of the subject revolver. It is a Crown over 11. Anybody know specifically what this represents?

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    I believe that marking indicates the pistol is tested and approved for MKII .455 ammunition use.

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    Isn't specifically Canadianicon. If there are no broad arrow in a 'C' on the thing, it's not ours. Mind you, the RCMP used those revolvers at one time. Those'd have an 'RCMP' stamp.
    The Crown over the '11' is an inspector's mark.
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    That inspectors marking shows on Brit, Canadianicon and Private Purchase S&W revolvers. The last 2nd model Hand Ejectors up to 71,000+ range (1917) exhibit it.

    I believe that it was probably the accepting officer based at Remington.

    Early 2nd models will often have DCP Canadian Inspector markings - on Brit guns - supposedly early in the war the Canadian inspectors were authorized to inspect Brit contract arms.

    That is why Remington and Winchest .44-40 rifles have Canadian DCP proof markings.

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    The firearm was confirmed by letter to have shipped to Ottawa Canadaicon in December 1915. The only marks are the double braid arrows and the one mentioned in this post.

    I appreciate the reply’s by all.

    In the previous post, it mentions that the mark was done at “Remington”. Could you please elaborate on this? Who is Remington and where were the located?

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    This mark is the same as the inspectors mark found on Ross rifles, crown over one or two digit number. Inspected by inspector number 11 which is the only inspector number I have examined on Cdn .455" S&Ws.
    One of 14500 ordered by Canadaicon.
    The crown is distinctly shaped from the Britishicon inspector mark crown.

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    Thank you. That is the information I was looking for. Have a great day!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mojalajab View Post
    The firearm was confirmed by letter to have shipped to Ottawa Canadaicon in December 1915. The only marks are the double braid arrows and the one mentioned in this post.

    I appreciate the reply’s by all.

    In the previous post, it mentions that the mark was done at “Remington”. Could you please elaborate on this? Who is Remington and where were the located?

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    According to Roy Jinks (S&W historian), Remington Arms was the shipping point of all WW1 UKicon small arms orders - ie. Colt, Winchester, Remington, S&W ect.

    And I just viewed another letter stating that a Canadian Contract (1 of some 14,000) was shipped to Ottawa, that one had Crown over "0" inspectors marking on bottom of Butt.

    Several other inspectors markings similar to yours are known, including Crown over "0", and Crown over "30"
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    At the start of WW1 contractors had a field day taking advantage of the different belligerents competing for supplies in the US. Later allied contracts were made through the Britishicon Purchasing Commission which was managed by the Morgan banking company.

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