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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    Why? As I stated, there's nothing there, just bare steel.
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    I am puzzled by the lack of script on the spine of bayonet. If it was removed, it was very professionally done. Under strong magnification, there's no sign of script or abrasion.
    Because I wish to see the surface finish of the metal and to be given the chance to judge for myself if the spine of the bayonet has been ground/sanded off or not, to remove markings. I do have some experience of metal finishing as do some other forum members, no-doubt.

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    Understood. Just to clarify, I've been at this collecting game for a few decades though I'm more knowledgeable about commonwealth arms than I am about a lot of European powers items. I'll send you a pic, but you'll see the patination is even over all the steel, so no indication of grinding or abrasion, no inscription, and every indication that IF the inscription was ground off, it was done in the period. Some of the reading I've done mentioned that the Germans re-purposed captured Frenchicon bayonets. I don't think the inscriptions were very deeply engraved into the steel, so short of measuring the thickness of the edge of the spine, how would you determine removal? Your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    I am puzzled by the lack of script on the spine of bayonet. If it was removed, it was very professionally done. Under strong magnification, there's no sign of script or abrasion. Perhaps someone can shed more light on the different stamps.
    Try looking at the site for which I already posted a link. You will find that there were, for example, bayonets made in Englandicon (and maybe other sources) that were delivered too late to be of use to the Frenchicon, and these blades had no script on the spine, and no French inspectors/acceptance marks.
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    Thank you all. With your input and that of some other forums, I've come to the conclusion that it's a run-of-the-mill Chassepot bayonet. So, nothing out of the ordinary. I'll put it up on the table at the next gun show. Once again, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    With your input and that of some other forums, I've come to the conclusion that it's a run-of-the-mill Chassepot bayonet.
    Not quite run-of-the-mill. The fact that it seems never to have had the usual script on the spine and Frenchicon inspectors marks makes it rather uncommon. Whether that would translate into enhanced value for a bayonet collector somewhere is another question.

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    How does it compare to the bayonet used on the 1870's argentine rolling blocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie5070 View Post
    How does it compare to the bayonet used on the 1870's argentine rolling blocks?
    That question would need someone much more knowledgeable than I to be correctly answered. I'm not too bad when it comes to mid 19th-20th century commonwealth stuff, but I'm totally out of my depth when dealing with a lot of European or South American arms. Google has been a good research tool and I have some friends who are terrific at research as well as some honest dealers who will share their knowledge and expertise.


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