HELP! Civil war collectible or later civilian copy?

[lawrence_n]

In amongst some helmets and such that I picked up at an estate sale, there is an old (and I mean OLD) canteen. Any collector of vintage anything knows, or knows of, somebody who sold something valuable for peanuts because they didn't do proper research. I'm not saying this canteen is U.S. civil war, but from pics I've seen, the possibility exists as it looks like period pieces from that era. The canvas and stitching are very old, but the strap and perhaps the chain used to hold the stopper may be later additions. Any real civil war buffs able to either give me a definitive yes or no or point me at someone who can. Thank you all!

[browningautorifle]

I don't think those buckles are military at all. They look chromed too...

[lawrence_n]

I don't think those buckles are military at all. They look chromed too...

Jim, read my post. For sure the strap isn't civil war period and the buckle proves that. To reiterate, the chain MAY be though pictures of civil war canteens like this one didn't show some kind of stopper retention system. To clarify, I need someone knowledgeable who can either tell me more about the canteen or point me towards a person or site where I can get solid information.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Wood, leather, cloth ... they all age merely by exposure to the air.

That cloth/webbing doesn't look any older than me.

My guess: post-WW2

[lawrence_n]

Patrick, I appreciate the input, but as you say, "your guess". Take a look at ebay or do some online research. There are verified civil war canteens that don't look any different from the one I picked up. As I mentioned, I'm looking for someone who can tell me what to look at, what to look for, or to point me to a site or appraiser who can give me an definitive answer.

[rcathey]

As I mentioned, I'm looking for someone who can tell me what to look at, what to look for, or to point me to a site or appraiser who can give me an definitive answer.

Yours for $51. Good luck.
https://m.barnesandnoble.com/p/the-civil-war-canteen-third-edition-robert-jones/1129039017/2660126181953?st=PLA&sid=BNB_ADL+Marketplace+Good+ New+Books+-+Mobile+Low&sourceId=PLAGoNA&dpid=tdtve346c&2sid=G oogle_m&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqqqDjOXs4wIVB_7jBx2TYwIj EAQYASABEgLkd_D_BwE

[gew8805]

Well Lawrence, at the risk of offending you and receiving the same condescension as you have given Patrick and Jim - both respected individuals, by the way - I will tell you that your canteen is nothing like the standard canteen patterns made and issued during the American Civil War by either side, it is post World War One, probably later, especially the strap which has features dating after 1945. It is civilian, not military.

Follow rcathey's recommendation on references.

[browningautorifle]

point me to a site or appraiser

You, like so many others that come here want to hear what you want to hear. Why not just leave it and imagine what you want to imagine? Or, we can keep telling you what it isn't. Anyway, here's a bit easier link to follow...

The Civil War Canteen - Third Edition by Robert Jones, Paperback | Barnes

respected individuals,

You're very kind...

[Flying10uk]

Your canteen looks remarkably similar to a canteen that you've already posted a picture of on another thread and I have tried to give an answer.

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=68246

We've all made mistakes when buying collectables/antiques/etc/etc, we've all over-paid at some point and we've, probably, all been ripped-off, at least once. Hopefully, with experience, by learning by our mistakes and by listening to others we don't make a habit of it.

[browningautorifle]

Your canteen looks remarkably similar to a canteen that you've already posted a picture of on another thread

In which he said...

The canteen feels too flimsy for a military piece and I'm assuming it's a civilian made "military style" canteen.