Ranger 303 rifles

[303carbine]

Now that the Canadian Rangers 303 rifles have been replaced by the C19 in 308, does this affect the price of the original 303 Ranger rifles if you can purchase the older rifles?

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[browningautorifle]

I wouldn't think it will change anything any more than the relegation of the #4 rifle did. Matter of fact the #4 rifles were about worthless when they went surplus...

[mrclark303]

Will the ex Ranger No4's be surped for sale Jim, or destroyed?

[Alan de Enfield]

Will the ex Ranger No4's be surped for sale Jim, or destroyed?

I've read somewhere that they are being offered to the current 'user', if they don't want them they are to be destroyed.

[browningautorifle]

Will the ex Ranger No4's be surped for sale Jim, or destroyed?

Never mind those rantings #5...he lost focus.

The gov't won't sell anything weapon oriented. Don't believe the story about them being offered to the holder. We HAVE PCMRangers here that can probably put this to rest for you...but the Gummn't won't sell weapons of related fodder. It will be smelted.

[Sunray]

"...the original 303 Ranger rifles..." Those are just Long Branch No. 4 Mk I* Lee-Enfields.
"...if you can purchase the older rifles?..." The CF hasn't released any surplus firearms for eons. Government won't let 'em. Literally thousands of perfectly serviceable No. 4's , No. 7's, C1A1/C2's, Inglis BHP's and Sterling SMG's were chopped, years ago. Some of the C1A1's and BHP's were brand spankin' new too. I've heard unconfirmed stores of there being 500,000 C1A1 rifles in storage. And all the BHP's I ever saw in Militia use were in horrible condition. Finish being worn off, primarily.
Was talking with a Reg Force guy I knew, years ago, who told me he witnessed C1A1's(might have been Lee-Enfields. It was years ago.) being run over with a Leopard tank on CFB Borden.
Gunparts, Stateside, got some parts, but the majority of the stuff was destroyed by government order.

[Lee Enfield]

"...the original 303 Ranger rifles..." Those are just Long Branch No. 4 Mk I* Lee-Enfields.
"...if you can purchase the older rifles?..." The CF hasn't released any surplus firearms for eons. Government won't let 'em. Literally thousands of perfectly serviceable No. 4's , No. 7's, C1A1/C2's, Inglis BHP's and Sterling SMG's were chopped, years ago. Some of the C1A1's and BHP's were brand spankin' new too. I've heard unconfirmed stores of there being 500,000 C1A1 rifles in storage. And all the BHP's I ever saw in Militia use were in horrible condition. Finish being worn off, primarily.
Was talking with a Reg Force guy I knew, years ago, who told me he witnessed C1A1's(might have been Lee-Enfields. It was years ago.) being run over with a Leopard tank on CFB Borden.
Gunparts, Stateside, got some parts, but the majority of the stuff was destroyed by government order.

Well, being as they only manufactured about 88,000 C1/C1A1/C2/C2A1 rifles i question anyones ability to store 500,000 of them...

[stencollector]

A quantity of the no4 rifles are being sent to Colt Canada for deactivation. They will be made available to CF museums. Not sure if any live ones are being offered,as crazy as that sounds.

[303carbine]

The reason I ask is because I met a Canadian Ranger that has his No4Mk11 Enfield, he is willing to sell to me with all the accompanying paperwork and pics of him with the rifle.
He already has his new C19, I hope to get pics soon as he gets back up north, i hope to get the rifle about a week later.

[mrclark303]

The reason I ask is because I met a Canadian Ranger that has his No4Mk11 Enfield, he is willing to sell to me with all the accompanying paperwork and pics of him with the rifle.
He already has his new C19, I hope to get pics soon as he gets back up north, i hope to get the rifle about a week later.

Enfield Mk2 you say ... sounds fishy to me, I thought they only had Long Branch No4's issued?

---------- Post added at 12:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:52 PM ----------

Let me set the record straight.......
Rangers are not able to buy their old service rifle, they are being "gifted" them as long as he/she wants to keep it. They must have a valid firearms licence or else "no dice". Our patrol here in Dawson went thru this exercise about 4 months . Out of 33 Rangers..... they all were interested in keeping their Lee Enfield, mind you there were a few that had neglected to have in their possesion a up to date firearms licence (expired) or it was in the process of being renewed. There seems to be a small grace period for those in that situation. Those who could not produce a current valid licence......their Enfield Rifles were taken away (but with the possibility of being gifted them at a later date once a valid licence is produced) but at the same time receiving the new C19. Those who were still in limbo meaning their fingerprints and paperwork (not firearms licence) was not up to date did not receive the new C19 and retained their Lee Enfield as their service weapon till that was squared away.....when paperwork and fingerprints are up to date they will be issued the C19 and will be gifted the Lee Enfield as long as they have a valid firearms licence
Hope this clarifies .

Many thanks for the clarification, will the gifted rifles be allowed to be sold on at some point Bros?