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    For anyone looking for a (T)...

    Liberty Tree Collectors has a Savage Lee Enfield No4 (T) for sale...

    https://www.libertytreecollectors.co...7&idcategory=2

    I'm hardly an expert on the markings of these rifles but this looks legitimate. The stock appears to have been replaced and so is missing the appropriate mark but the receiver has the (T).
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    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

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    looks like one of the 400 dollar Indian rifles, 15 years later the prices is 4.8 times higher.

    I would question the installation of the grenade launcher features and the middle band set up for a grenade launcher flip up sight. It had some parts replaced in service, so it is not technically original.

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    Surely a 1942 dated Savage might not have the S51 on the butt. The T looks correct and there is a faint scope number on the wrist.

    I'd say it looks legit. I'd be tempted at that price!

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    It's a question of semantics. It's a real 4T alright, but it's well loved & well travelled, having acquired plenty of wear & some replacement parts over the years. To my mind it's 'genuine' but not in 'factory original' condition. Most of the Savage rifles I've seen did have the S51 on the butt but not most of the other 'typical' markings as exhibited by later 1943, 1944 & 1945 BSA rifles. The S51 seems to have appeared first in the marking system, well before the typical placement of the D6E, T, etc.

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    I'd give it a home but unfortunately too much on my plate at present.

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    I'm not near my books but the "star" on the reinforce means something it would be in the broad arrow by Skennertonicon positive I have seen the explanation for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    I'm not near my books but the "star" on the reinforce means something it would be in the broad arrow by Skennertonicon positive I have seen the explanation for it.
    I didn’t notice that... I used to have a Savage LE that I had sent Brian Dickicon some pictures of in regards to an unrelated question. He pointed out the star and if I remember correctly said it meant the receiver (or possibly the barrel) was compromised in some way.

    It’s been a while so I could be misremembering.

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    A Star is also the ownership mark of Indonesia. Will be interesting to see what this one means

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    Yes, or IIRC a rusty or otherwise worn barrel........

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