+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: 1897 trench conversion

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Member M1 C FAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Last On
    12-04-2019 @ 01:14 PM
    Location
    Portland OREGON
    Posts
    84
    Local Date
    12-07-2019
    Local Time
    09:11 PM

    1897 trench conversion

    Just acquired a 1897 takedown 12 ga. and am interested in converting to a trench gun. My question right now is was the butt stock sling swivel used on then it`s own design or did they use a 1903 Springfield type?


  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
     

  3. #2
    Contributing Member rcathey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 11:20 PM
    Location
    St. Louis, MO Area
    Posts
    1,132
    Local Date
    12-08-2019
    Local Time
    01:11 AM
    1903 type like most of the others.
    Just an FYI, the trench gun used the non-takedown model.

  4. Thank You to rcathey For This Useful Post:


  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #3
    Member M1 C FAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Last On
    12-04-2019 @ 01:14 PM
    Location
    Portland OREGON
    Posts
    84
    Local Date
    12-07-2019
    Local Time
    09:11 PM
    Thread Starter
    I can`t remember where but I believe I have read that about 25,000 takedown versions were delivered for WWII?? I would love to know if that is true. Haven't bought Canfields book yet.

  7. #4
    Member JJM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Last On
    11-26-2019 @ 02:43 PM
    Location
    London Ohio
    Posts
    18
    Local Date
    12-08-2019
    Local Time
    12:11 AM
    WW1 Winchester model 97 trench guns were solid frame and WW2 Winchester model 97 trench guns were take down
    The rear sling swivel has a smaller base than one on the Model 1903 Winchester used it on their rifles and shotguns so you need to find a Winchester rear sling swivel

    ---------- Post added at 02:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 PM ----------

    Between 1941 and 1944 there were 40,642 Winchester model 97's of all types procured about 33,000 were trench guns

  8. Thank You to JJM For This Useful Post:


  9. #5
    Member M1 C FAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Last On
    12-04-2019 @ 01:14 PM
    Location
    Portland OREGON
    Posts
    84
    Local Date
    12-07-2019
    Local Time
    09:11 PM
    Thread Starter
    Would that be the same one Winchester used on the m1917 possibly? I have a couple of those.

  10. #6
    Contributing Member rcathey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 11:20 PM
    Location
    St. Louis, MO Area
    Posts
    1,132
    Local Date
    12-08-2019
    Local Time
    01:11 AM
    Well I bungled that answer haha.
    I’ve learned some new stuff here!

  11. Thank You to rcathey For This Useful Post:


  12. #7
    Member JJM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Last On
    11-26-2019 @ 02:43 PM
    Location
    London Ohio
    Posts
    18
    Local Date
    12-08-2019
    Local Time
    12:11 AM
    No the M1917 is different the Winchester sling swivel has a smaller base then the one's found on the 03 or 1917
    I still learn new things all the time when it comes to collecting military shotguns

  13. Thank You to JJM For This Useful Post:


  14. #8
    Member Bruce Canfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 01:09 PM
    Posts
    26
    Local Date
    12-08-2019
    Local Time
    01:11 AM
    While it did resemble the '03 swivel, the Winchester trench guns (M97 and M12) used a proprietary swivel that was smaller than the '03 swivel and had a slightly different configuration. BTW, the WWI M97s were solid frame but the WWII production guns were take-down.

  15. Thank You to Bruce Canfield For This Useful Post:


  16. #9
    Member M1 C FAN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Last On
    12-04-2019 @ 01:14 PM
    Location
    Portland OREGON
    Posts
    84
    Local Date
    12-07-2019
    Local Time
    09:11 PM
    Thread Starter
    Thank you Sir, I really need to buy your books. I have just started down the Trechgun wormhole. I do not intend to try to fake a Real gun just want to make as near as possible of an affordable version of one. So I would take it I should look for a 4 row heat shield to make my takedown gun WWII correct?

  17. #10
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 01:10 AM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    22,556
    Local Date
    12-07-2019
    Local Time
    09:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by M1icon C FAN View Post
    I really need to buy your books
    I have a spare soft cover book by Bruce I will send you if you PM me your address to ship. It will just appear. I have two.
    Regards, Jim

  18. Thank You to browningautorifle For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Winchester 1897 trench gun.
    By Anzac15 in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-12-2017, 08:30 PM
  2. winchester 1897 trench gun questions?
    By MaxPrime in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 05-26-2015, 12:43 AM
  3. 1897 Winchester Trench on Gunbroker
    By drh2687 in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-25-2013, 04:39 PM
  4. A nice Win 1897 trench gun on AA
    By brick26 in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-27-2011, 10:13 PM
  5. Winchester Model 1897 WWI Trench Gun M97
    By sleepla8er in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-06-2009, 01:22 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts