1897 trench conversion

[M1 C FAN]

Just acquired a 1897 takedown 12 ga. and am interested in converting to a trench gun. My question right now is was the butt stock sling swivel used on then it`s own design or did they use a 1903 Springfield type?

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[rcathey]

1903 type like most of the others.
Just an FYI, the trench gun used the non-takedown model.

[Bruce Canfield]

While it did resemble the '03 swivel, the Winchester trench guns (M97 and M12) used a proprietary swivel that was smaller than the '03 swivel and had a slightly different configuration. BTW, the WWI M97s were solid frame but the WWII production guns were take-down.

[M1 C FAN]

Thank you Sir, I really need to buy your books. I have just started down the Trechgun wormhole. I do not intend to try to fake a Real gun just want to make as near as possible of an affordable version of one. So I would take it I should look for a 4 row heat shield to make my takedown gun WWII correct?

[browningautorifle]

I really need to buy your books

I have a spare soft cover book by Bruce I will send you if you PM me your address to ship. It will just appear. I have two.

[M1 C FAN]

What an incredibly generous offer Sir. Thank you so much PM sent. I hope I can repay the favor someday.

[Bruce Canfield]

Yes, only the very early WWII trench guns had the six row handguard. Most were of the four row variety.

[M1 C FAN]

The gun I purchased SR# 894964 has a 30" full choke barrel that I am not going to cut. If anyone has experience with them,What is the opinion of the after market barrels being sold by Numrich? Also so for a conversion I`m thinking all I need for parts would be the bayonet mount/heat shroud, barrel, rear swivel, sling and magazine plug? I already have an extra 1917 bayonet.

[M1 C FAN]

I can`t remember where but I believe I have read that about 25,000 takedown versions were delivered for WWII?? I would love to know if that is true. Haven't bought Canfields book yet.

[JJM]

WW1 Winchester model 97 trench guns were solid frame and WW2 Winchester model 97 trench guns were take down
The rear sling swivel has a smaller base than one on the Model 1903 Winchester used it on their rifles and shotguns so you need to find a Winchester rear sling swivel

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Between 1941 and 1944 there were 40,642 Winchester model 97's of all types procured about 33,000 were trench guns