+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: Type 3 slide question

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member jond41403's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Tn
    Posts
    511
    Real Name
    Jon dale
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM

    Type 3 slide question

    hello all,
    I was hoping to get some professional opinions on this before I attempted to use it as a spare on my carbine. I have a type 3 slide that was labeled a type 4 when I bought it.I should have caught the arm joint differences in the pictures on the listing but I didn't catch it until I held it in my hand. I'm thinking about keeping it if it poses no safety issues. My carbine currently has a type 4 slide which has the increased dwell time to my understanding. Does a type 3 slide on a shooter carbine pose any risks? Would a type 3 allow the bolt to open too quickly before the pressure from the cartridge has fully been released? I do not want any hot gases thrown in my face and this would be used on a spring tube Winchester that has been well-used and has fired who knows how many thousands of rounds during its life besides the thousands of rounds I have put through it myself over the years. Any and all opinions would be greatly appreciated, thanks everyone
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    "good night Chesty, Wherever You Are"

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Legacy Member us019255's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 09:58 AM
    Location
    reluctantly in Santiago, MN
    Age
    81
    Posts
    266
    Real Name
    Ed Hauser
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    11:22 PM
    Just looked at all the slide differences. Most changes were made just to increase durability. The rest seem to be aimed at exact tuning of ejection. My take is they all worked and safely. I have never been a collector who tried to restore to exact configuration at factory and I suspect that I have a variety of slide types in my safe.
    Ed reluctantly no longer in the Bitterroot

  4. Thank You to us019255 For This Useful Post:


  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #3
    Legacy Member tenOC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last On
    10-27-2021 @ 05:38 PM
    Location
    Earth, Milky Way. And as seen in another dimension.
    Posts
    638
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    True, you shouldn't experience any problems. Some NPM slides are a hybrid slide. If yours is marked N15 (I think) in the slide bucket it may be one.

  7. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to tenOC For This Useful Post:


  8. #4
    Legacy Member jond41403's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Tn
    Posts
    511
    Real Name
    Jon dale
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by tenOC View Post
    True, you shouldn't experience any problems. Some NPM slides are a hybrid slide. If yours is marked N15 (I think) in the slide bucket it may be one.
    The type 4 slide that is on my carbine now is an IBM marked EE AOB.the type 3 slide I received is an IBM marked C AOB
    "good night Chesty, Wherever You Are"

  9. #5
    Legacy Member AFJon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Last On
    03-05-2024 @ 11:14 PM
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    351
    Real Name
    Jon Dix
    Local Date
    03-28-2024
    Local Time
    11:22 PM
    The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines - Slides

    Issue with the Type 3 is the possibility of bending or breakage. You'd be better off using the existing slide.
    Former Prairie Submarine Commander
    "To Err is Human, To Forgive is Divine. Neither of Which is SAC Policy."

  10. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to AFJon For This Useful Post:


  11. #6
    Legacy Member jond41403's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Tn
    Posts
    511
    Real Name
    Jon dale
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by AFJon View Post
    The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines - Slides

    Issue with the Type 3 is the possibility of bending or breakage. You'd be better off using the existing slide.
    That's what I was thinking too. That's why I tried to buy another type 4 in case I needed to replace the type 4 that's already on my carbine.I just didn't realize it was a type 3 until it arrived in the mail. I'm thinking I will just send it back and get another type 4(which is what I thought I was buying in the first place). I guess that's what I get for ordering something at 2 in the morning and half asleep. The seller had it labeled as a type 4 and I should have caught the mistake because his pictures clearly showed a type 3 once I realized what I had in my hand and went back and looked at the pictures closer.I knew about the arm joint being weaker but I was more concerned with the type 3's not having the dwell time machined in like the type 4's do. I thought maybe they made this change because the bolt was opening too fast before the pressures could be released
    Last edited by jond41403; 11-04-2019 at 12:38 AM.
    "good night Chesty, Wherever You Are"

  12. #7
    Legacy Member jond41403's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Tn
    Posts
    511
    Real Name
    Jon dale
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    Thread Starter
    Thank you everyone for your time and information. I really appreciate it
    "good night Chesty, Wherever You Are"

  13. #8
    Advisory Panel
    painter777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Central Michigan
    Posts
    5,312
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    IIRC,
    There is no Dwell/Timing change between the Type III vs Type IV Slide.
    The arm joint on the Type IV was increased in size 'because of the concern of possible breakage at the narrow joint on the Type III'.
    The Type IV is born.
    This being in part to the bulking up of parts for the grenade launchers and incoming M2. Like the introduction of the Round bolt.
    It wasn't until the last batch of the Type V Slides (most with part #) that we seen the Dwell, Slide travel and Cam angle changes. Double check rear wall thickness.... the thinner rear wall normally has all the updates. More to these than just the width of the arm joint and angled cam.

    In short, Difference between a T III vs T IV Op Slide is just the Arm joint size.
    I've seen a few pictures of broken slides, but Far more of Bolts with broken right lugs.

    Best for shooting, take advantage of the proven updates...... T-V or T-VI Slide, Round Bolt, Last style Ejector and Extractor

    The Sleeplessone covers it very well on his Op slide and Round bolt pages:
    Slides: The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines - Slides
    Bolts: The U.S. Caliber .30 Carbines - Parts

    I have 2 shooter carbines that have the T III Op slides. I've never had to swap out any type of slide.
    I have........... Replaced 2 N14 Flat bolts with cracked right lugs.

    IMO, One will most likely have problems with a bolt, mag or extractor issues.
    Keep your lug guides burr free and lubed..... and shoot it!
    That WRA Springtube was weaned on inferior parts from way back in late 42 or early 43.



    Last edited by painter777; 11-05-2019 at 05:47 PM.
    Charlie-Painter777

    A Country Has No Greater Responsibility Than To Care For Those Who Served...

  14. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to painter777 For This Useful Post:


  15. #9
    Legacy Member jond41403's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Last On
    @
    Location
    Tn
    Posts
    511
    Real Name
    Jon dale
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    Thread Starter
    Thanks Charlie, I had my slides mixed up! I thought the timing changes started with the 4's. There are so many differences with all these different types of parts I don't see how you guys keep up with it all ha ha.thanks again guys
    "good night Chesty, Wherever You Are"

  16. Thank You to jond41403 For This Useful Post:


  17. #10
    Legacy Member Bubba-7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    08-27-2023 @ 08:25 PM
    Location
    Just North of Fort Benning
    Posts
    503
    Real Name
    Roger
    Local Date
    03-29-2024
    Local Time
    02:22 AM
    There are type 4 slides that have the long dwell modification. Not every manufacturer but some did.

  18. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to Bubba-7 For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. What type Rockola slide is this?
    By USGI in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 05-22-2013, 10:49 AM
  2. Type V slide question
    By imarangemaster in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 10-28-2012, 09:51 AM
  3. Question on Underwood Type III slide marking
    By painter777 in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 06-15-2010, 10:05 PM
  4. What type slide stop do I need?
    By ridecontrol in forum 1911/1911A1 Service Pistol
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-13-2009, 12:13 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Raven Rocks