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    Forgetting the ridiculous price, I just don't think that is the pucker kit mate only IMHO, it looks fabricated and made to look older!
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    I think they are real Gil, Italyicon appears to be both a former user and destination for former foreign Military Aid examples.

    Judging by the absolutely filthy state of mine when I bought it, they have been poorly stored and I shouldn't be surprised if some are beyond saving and worth more parted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    I saw this and nearly fell off my office chair!

    M1 parachutists-Football Folding Para Carbine Folding Stock-ww2 (4) CD. | eBay

    How much!
    Looks real to me. One problem is no butt plate pictures. It's a high wood, but RI3 pistol grip and I don't see prominent crossed cannon stamp. RI3 is not wrong but also not the ultimate configuration for a high wood. The ultimate would be OI marked.

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    Piggy bank!



    ---------- Post added at 08:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:30 AM ----------

    None of the 3 or 4 stocks he has listed show the Butt plates or close views of the Rivets.
    Also noticed on his Type III straight hammers he uses 1 stock photo (Of some maker ) to represent the other makers.
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    It's a case of buyer beware and do your homework first I guess Charlie.

    And get specific pictures sent.

    No point spending a small fortune only to discover it's correct, but badly cracked at the rear and only suitable for display.

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    Charlie, That photo looks like the ones that were in Germanyicon about 8 years ago now.; A small dealer there had bought several boxes of those. They came out of Malaysia and Burma he said.

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    ahhhhhhhhh................with the illusive Spitfires!! Sorry to much cynicism for a Monday!
    With these PARA stocks, having seen some really good copies, mostly hailing from the States you have to have them in your hands to make really sure.
    I am sure you intend to do that anyway before you part with your hard earned money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    With these PARA stocks, having seen some really good copies, mostly hailing from the States...
    They don't come from the USAicon, do they? They come to the USA. If the pics are decent enough you can determine they're real or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Charlie, That photo looks like the ones that were in Germanyicon about 8 years ago now.; A small dealer there had bought several boxes of those. They came out of Malaysia and Burma he said.
    Bruce,
    I have no idea where they came from. I stumbled across it in a photo album I was cleaning up the other day and just posted it for clark303 to see. I made NO CLAIMS to being original.
    I was sent that picture from Mike in New Zealandicon. He asked if I could post it for him back in 2009. In that thread member 442nd in reply #8 has a similar theory like yours about them.
    Here is that post:
    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=17294

    After doing a Google Image Search of that picture I found the same picture as part of a discussion in Denmarkicon.
    Notice the last picture showing all the boxed M1A1icon parts. Same picture the Frenchicon seller nenel3 shows in some of his Ebay auctions.
    Denmark Thread/Translated:
    Google Translate

    Below is a current Ebay link with the seller nenel3 showing the same boxed parts and then the picture:

    M1 CARBINE, M1 PARATROOPER long hinge screw, US GI, WWII | eBay

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    Thanks Charlie, very interesting indeed. there's a huge amount of information out there, and the European aspect seems to be a story waiting to be told.

    We have clearly just scratched the surface of the European story.

    It looks as if a large amount of surplus M1A1icon stocks and parts came to Europe as either part of the massive Military assistance program, or via commercial sale.

    I would think as large numbers of M1 Carbines were part of this aid, it stands to reason large numbers of spares would be shipped with them ... unneeded NOS unissued M1A1 parts among them it would seem.

    Good opportunity for a stateside spring clean!
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