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    I would suggest "Ordinary" or the normal position without any filtration because at least one position of the knob must be where there is no colour filtration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    On to my last question. Do you know what "D G Y O" stands for? Dark, Green, Yellow, Orange perhaps? Never having used optics with different coloured filters, I have no first hand knowledge as to their efficacy, but on an intellectual level, I could see the practical applications.
    Just dug my pair out and it's dark here now, but looking at the ceiling lights, "Dark/Day, Green/Grey (can't tell now!), definitely Yellow and Flying10Uk is probably right about the "O" being "Ordinary" or something similar. That last setting is the closest to clear.

    Some photos off an old drive, and my pair.
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    Well! I finally got my hands on them, and I'm gobsmacked! The lenses are in very good condition with no cracks or chips an even very few micro scratches on the lenses, either ocular or objective. The eye cups are excellent as well. They adjust as they should and the filters work just fine with good positive click into position. There are no graduations on the reticle so I doubt they were artillery or infantry use, but what do I know? My brother speculates that they were perhaps naval glasses. There is no date on them and oddly enough, no military acceptance stamp that I can see, but I don't know if that's unusual. Could these have been made for the civilian market? Here are some pics I took today, so enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrence_n View Post
    My brother speculates that they were perhaps naval glasses.
    My understanding is that 7X50 is pretty much a standard size binocular for hand-held marine use binoculars. Anything with larger magnification would not really be suitable for "hand-held" marine use because of movement of the boat/ship and would need fitting to a base/support. Obviously 7X50 binoculars are not just used for marine use and can, of course, be used on dry land where 7X50 magnification is required.

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    Thank you all for your input. I had the good fortune to communicate with a VERY knowledgeable gentleman in Winnipeg and I've got it nailed down. These are indeed a '42-'43 R.E.L. made set of 7 X 50's that had the filter carousel retro-fitted by B.O.P. in the early '50's. According to the gentleman I was to-ing and fro-ing with, they were almost exclusively made for the Canadianicon Navy. They are in excellent condition as is the case. The optics are very clear and everything works as it should. From their condition, I'd venture to suggest that if they were issued, they saw very minimal use and definitely no abuse. All of my questions have been answered. All in all, a very nice piece of Canadian military history.

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    Yours have certainly seen much less use than many. One thing lacking from our knowledge is the anecdotal reports of those who actually used the. Must be plenty of officers from the 50's still around.

    "Royal Canadianicon Navy" that is...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Yours have certainly seen much less use than many. One thing lacking from our knowledge is the anecdotal reports of those who actually used the. Must be plenty of officers from the 50's still around.

    "Royal Canadianicon Navy" that is...!
    I posted these on the Canadiangunnutz website in the optics section. I had a gentleman respond who says he carried these with a graduated reticle in a land unit and had the retro-fitted filters. I have to re-read the article on the R.E.L. binos.

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    lawrence_n, I've been using almost the same binoculars, but only thermal type. I think it should be like model AGM Protector TM50-384 ( found it here: https://www.аgmglobalvision.com/thermal-imaging ). But the main question for me is - what is better, night vision scope or a thermal one? Did you use both of them simultaneously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxx777 View Post
    lawrence_n, I've been using almost the same binoculars, but only thermal type. I think it should be like model AGM Protector TM50-384 ( found it here: https://www.аgmglobalvision.com/thermal-imaging ). But the main question for me is - what is better, night vision scope or a thermal one? Did you use both of them simultaneously?
    I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. These binos are WWII/Korean war vintage so they long predate thermal or light-gathering optics. I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on the pros and cons for either system.

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    I'd have to say that I find the REL 7x50s to be decidedly underwhelming and I have a pair that are more or less new in the case. They are like the 6x30s a rework of a US design I believe.

    Some enterprising outfit in the Far East should start making a marine binocular with a built-in compass and these filters. Glare and eye-damage from it is a real problem at sea.
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