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    Krag passed doen through generations

    This was passed down to me. My father said it came into the family through the old US Navy Yard in Philadelphia. Stamped 1895.
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    Used to be a rifle...but still looks nice. How's the barrel? Usually they're about perfect, that's why they hunted and were seen good enough to cut down.
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    Shoots good. very smooth action.

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    'sendero' - Neat family heirloom!

    Actually, your Kragicon's receiver, (#26336 or #26836?), marked 1895 (and not model 1895 or model 1896), started its service as an early U.S. model 1896 carbine.

    It now has the later type of carbine stock, that has the long forearm. These stocks were developed to make refurbished model 1896 carbines look more like the model 1899 carbine configuration. Your rear-sight appears to be a '1902 carbine sight'.

    Your present front sight is a crude commercial replacement. It looks similar to ones turned out by Stokes Kirk company in Philadelphia.

    It is possible your Krag was assembled from surplus parts by Stokes Kirk.

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    : Krag passed down through generations

    That might make sense. I had gone to a big milsurp and antique gun show two weeks ago and they had many krags. I noticed that the base of my rear sight is different. The others gradually sloped up or had steps while mine is more of a hump. SN is 26836
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    'sendero' - I think your rear-sight may be made up from parts: a Kragicon 'model 1898 rifle-sight' base and a 'model 1902 sight' leaf.

    Springfield did not combine these sight parts, but, surplus dealers did.

    A picture of your rear sight with the leaf 'up', so that the Spring is visible, would allow identification.
    (1898 and 1902 sight bases are similar, but, used different 'flat' springs and the heights are different).
    BTW - The carbine bases for 1898 and 1902 sights were stamped with a "C" on the side.

    FWIW - U.S. Krags #26808 and #26862 were documented model 1896 carbines. Your number falls mid-way in-between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
    Actually, your Kragicon's receiver, started its service as an early U.S. model 1896 carbine.
    There's a first for me, I've never seen a carbine with the front sight replaced...like that. Couldn't imagine why? Assembled from parts? Sold off and stripped and reassembled?
    Regards, Jim

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    Maybe the original carbine barrel had a rough bore.

    Stokes Kirk describes their (No. 399 D) "carbines" having new rifle barrels, cut to 22 inches and their banded front-sight installed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
    having new rifle barrels, cut to 22 inches and their banded front-sight installed.
    Makes perfect sense. So, a carbine receiver changed to something...else.
    Regards, Jim

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    Here is a short mention of the WWI organization, but not much data. more on WWII


    Pennsylvania State Guard - Wikipedia

    Here is where you can type in your relatives name and see if it comes up as a state guard man from 1918 to 1920

    https://archon.klnpa.org/psa/?p=coll...olcard&id=8760

    There are more records and organizations involved in home defense than the state guard: here are the state archives, you might find a lead there.

    WWI Online :: Pennsylvania State Archives


    I would document what you can find, in writing before it is all lost. Thing is family firearms have a history of losing their association or having the story get messed up over time. Have the documentation and it will stay a family heirloom a lot longer.

    For example, in my family is a Belgiumicon muzzle loading screw-off double barreled percussion pistol from circa 1851~1855. It has family history, but it is forgotten, the last person who knew something about it died in 1993, and his widow had no recollection of what the association was. The best guess is it was from an extended family from Indiana circa civil war era, but no one knows.

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