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    Early delux Ross Commercial Rifle?

    Looking for help identifying this rifle, also does anybody have parts to get her back up an running?

    I see the early style stamp on the receiver, the serial number 327 is in all sorts of parts and many differences from a model R sporter that I own. This one doesn't have a hole in the bolt handle, the mag well is different, the cocking lever has strong knurling etc.

    Is this the 327th rifle made by Ross or is the apparent serial number on the mag floor plate more realistic?

    Any thought/info would be greatly appreciated.

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    Thats 40 Grs Cordite to a 320 Grs Bullet on the floorplate thats the way I see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_ish View Post
    the apparent serial number
    You seem to have missed showing us that one...
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    Right you are. Sorry, here is the possible serial number on the floor plate and then some of the 327 stamps.

    I will mention I think the barrel may be been switched. It is only finger tight and is missing the rear sight. Caliber is smaller than 303 so I am guessing 280 Ross.

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    The front sight appears to be a military model with the hood reversed. The action appears to be a version of the 1903 pattern, with the magazine cut-off release on the right side of the stock above the trigger guard. The Hartford Connecticut inscription is very interesting. Nice engraving - possibly a presentation piece. Good luck - here's hoping you fell down the kybo hole, and came up with a mouth full of diamonds.
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    Or...is it an assembly number?
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    Sorry to add to the muddle, but I went down the rabbit hole because of the proof stamps on the floor plate. I thought it may have originally been barreled/chambered for the 375 Flanged Nitro-Express (right charge, wrong bullet weight), and came up with this from Imperial War Museums - ROSS MODEL 1903 SPORTING RIFLE .370 EXPRESS:

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    Hmm, very interesting. I will say both the hand guard and stock have the same 327 stamp as all the metal parts and I mean almost all the metal parts are stamped.

    So, did the Britishicon military purchase some number of 1903 models in 375 and this might be one of them?


    Thanks for all the info.


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    Reading more and contemplating more. First I mis-typed, so this was a 370 express (probably, based on loading data) which was probably made as a 370 in Englandicon?

    No military provenance BUT the upper handguard clearly came with the rifle from the factory so maybe a commercial special order?

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    Interesting. Seems to be an early 1900/03. Would have been 370 Express originally.

    Barrel looks to be later military maybe? Are there any rear sights?

    Is the barrel turned in all the way? Is it tight? Does the bore look to be 370?
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