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    I thought this brush with a destiny was originally part of the Carl Gustav CES? Someone in Swedenicon must have them or know where they were obtained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    I thought this brush with a destiny was originally part of the Carl Gustav CES? Someone in Swedenicon must have them or know where they were obtained.
    It was the brush bottle that was part of the CES for the Charlie G - originally containing the pull through for the sub calibre adaptor
    Thats why the L42 parts list refers to it as 'bottle - pull through'

    This old post shows it in the Charlie G User Handbook:

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=46018

    As Chosenman says the brush was originally part of the IWS CES cut down to fit into the pull through bottle
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    Surpmil, the sensible suggestion which you make could usefully re-set the crazy price which these plastic bottle fetch... I think the record at auction, just for the plastic bottle to hold the brush, was £1,700 or thereabouts.

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    Could a repro be made with a 3d printer? I have tried to find something similar for a long time and cutting down a Swedishicon Mauser double oiler leaves you something that looks the part but is too small

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobD View Post
    Surpmil, the sensible suggestion which you make could usefully re-set the crazy price which these plastic bottle fetch... I think the record at auction, just for the plastic bottle to hold the brush, was £1,700 or thereabouts.
    Yikes! And I'll bet they were just sourced from some commercial supplier for the Carl G. as well.

    And the brushes the same no doubt.
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    Why did they have to make its location quite to prominent in the chest! Certainly in mine it is a very empty area 🙁

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    It is what it is.............if you were building a classic car and the original starter motor was missing you would go all out to find one, no different here with the Charlie G bottle. I think its great, it is just ploughing the price of the L42A1 and full CES up through the roof, and quite right too IMHO, worth every penny.
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    I see I was mistaken: no apparent Swedishicon connection. https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=46018

    Maybe go and find the principals of this "long gone" company in the Brighton which made the bottles?

    Or send one off to S.E. Asia for duplication; maybe too valuable to send off unescorted now!?
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    I have the half inch brush so will attach a photo tomorrow that will help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post

    Brush: Was the famous, scarce, field-shortened Brush, Artists, Flat Lacquer 1/2 inch (8020-99-943-0422) shown in my 1973 version really a CES item for the entire life of the rifle, or did the Britishicon Army later replace it with a purpose-designed lens cleaning brush, perhaps the Brush, Dusting, Lens (7920-12-120-0355) that looks so nearly identical to the original that one would think it was a deliberate copy?
    Looking at the country designation in those two NATO Stock Numbers, the first one is a UK number, the second one is Germanicon. Does that help? I can't remember the catalogue section numbers, but I think the first is "General Stores" and the second is "Weapon Stores"...

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