When it really happens: SHTF...

[Ovidio]

I see that we are starting to split in two different types of people. Those who are scared and ready to trade some liberty for safety (and I like to cite Franklyn to those people), and those who are getting restless, because, even if they don't think deeply about what is going on, they know it is wrong and it hurts their instinct for freedom.
The proportion is worrying.
Guess which group is the biggest and growing...

[Aragorn243]

I'm still seeing four kinds of people here.

The quiet ones who are sitting and waiting but realizing that something might have to be done soon and it might be unpleasant. By quiet I mean no real physical action, other than speaking out and perhaps attending rallies. This is probably the largest group but still not a majority of the nation, just the largest. I put myself into that category as are most of my friends. I've really backed away from those in a couple of the other groups although I can say I have zero friends in the next group I will describe.

The rioters, the ones that shout the loudest, the ones that demand freebies, the ones that don't really give a damn about anyone but themselves and have no real understanding of how anything works. These are the ones not afraid to take action now because neither of the other two groups is really pushing back. When group one decides to push back, these idiots are in serous trouble and I expect them to disappear into the winds. This is probably the smallest group but appears to be the largest because they are the squeaky wheel.

The third group contains the fearful, the ones that will trade anything to save their lives. This bunch is not exactly rational sometimes but doesn't pose a serious threat to anyone unless it's on the individual level when they freak out on someone and attack them for not wearing a mask, etc. How large this one is is difficult to say but it's pretty big. This group will be worthless in any confrontation.

The fourth group and it's a big one, those that just don't take a position on anything either way. They just want to be left alone and live their lives and will do what the government says just to keep the peace. They probably don't vote, don't watch the news, couldn't tell you what the capital of their state is, etc. They probably only notice when their bar is closed down but they'll just move on to something else. Home party, etc. This group could also be potentially the largest. Hard to tell which side they will join if push comes to shove.

What's interesting in all this is that this current situation resembles the time when our nation was born. The majority of people didn't care one way or another, a small minority wanted to stay with England and a larger minority wanted to break away and eventually forced the others to take a side. The activists are reversed however with those wanting to destroy the country being the fired up ones at the moment.

[usabaker]

First you Freedom Religion, then Your Firearms, and bending of the 1st Amendment... Its been done before and it's happening in the USA

https://www.prageru.com/video/you-ca...-without-this/

[Ovidio]

Great link Bill, thank you!

[Jonzie]

Yes Very good Thanks Bill

[Aragorn243]

Three days of being out of the loop. Can't say I missed it.

[Surpmil]

Which loop?

[AFJon]

Which loop?

4 legged steaks.
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=72663&page=1

[Aragorn243]

Yeah, hunting trip. Christmas music on the radio while traveling, no news on the TV at the hotel in the limited time we were there and awake. No computer time. Still had my phone but I didn't do much in the news area. Saw my dad for the first time in over a year. We don't visit a lot but usually more than that.

[ssgross]

To AArogorn's and usabaker's point and fourth group, many people are used to this and placid. Imagine a child that never tasted chocolate or in their whole life, and never even known it existed. Why would they care to help save Michigan from a governor that wants to ban chocolate?
Serving in Iraq at the very beginning, and other places, my overly general impression was a population that was indifferent to any prospects of liberty. Apparently, chocolate has been hard to come by in those places for many thousands of years - from their point of view, why should they care?
Societies that have known real liberty understand that the freedom to choose, but limiting the choices, isn't really freedom, and it certainly isn't liberty. Where you get food from, what stores you can go to, the items you can buy, and now even your ability to provide for yourself (Michigan) - all has been controlled, or attempted to control, in these lockdowns. For too many people people though, this is just the same as every other day for the entirety of their history. They are allowed to not care, and have gotten very used to it.