The more the situation develops here, the less people learn in other places.
I don’t really get that...
The way to go is to keep quiet and restrain ourselves, in order not to scare anybody and keep the situation under control.
Panic would get people killed.
There is food enough for everybody if people keep their heads.
But I really see that lots of people are morally and psychologically weak, soft, unfit for anything that is not the comfortable lifestyle they are used to.
Some military life would have helped many...
The more the situation develops here, the less people learn in other places.
I don’t really get that...
The way to go is to keep quiet and restrain ourselves, in order not to scare anybody and keep the situation under control.
Panic would get people killed.
There is food enough for everybody if people keep their heads.
But I really see that lots of people are morally and psychologically weak, soft, unfit for anything that is not the comfortable lifestyle they are used to.
Some military life would have helped many...
Absolutely Oviedo, very well said. I am absolutely disgusted by the behaviour of some of my fellow countrymen.
These selfish 'individuals' are stressing the supply system for absolutely no reason!
I would happily send in the army, make them put everything back on the shelves and kick their selfish asses all around the supermarket carparks!
Ovidio,
I totally agree. It must be so clear for you guys in Italy where the virus has peaked and still people continue to die, in terms of what to do and what not to do from your hard fought experience.
Sadly the "pack" mentality is at play when anything like this hits the world. It was the same with Ebola, which was believed to be spreading at an alarming rate, but people who dealt with it, mostly Military Medics like my son, attacked it head on and defeated its spread.
They put their lives on the line as they do everyday.
Ebola virus would have killed everyone had they not been brave, and thats right across the world. He told me the other night, they have only in the last few weeks seen the virus decline in Sierra Leone as things start to level out.
He continues to serve in Kenya now as an Army Medic visiting hospitals in Nairobi in readiness for COVID-19 as part of the UK's assistance to the country.
As you said earlier, it is a pack mentality that leads to selfishness and greed, and it is these individuals we have here in the UK, who do need to look at Italy and the fully stocked supermarkets, and step back and reassess their actions.
To see a Staff Nurse cry having done 63 hours non stop in London wanting to go home to rest before she went back to treat those suffering, to find NOTHING in the supermarket to sustain her health, I think has had an impact on these bastards as it aired on national television on all channels!
We will come through this, with medical workers dedicated to making this a safer world, and it is the Military and specialist test centres who know how to defeat a "Manmade Virus"!!
Stay safe mate
'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
Our Govt has instructed the other state premiers of Phase 1 restrictions as of 13:00 WST in our state tomorrow Bars, Cinemas , restraunts, sporting venues, churches etc are to be shut, some hotels in Perth may be used as temporary hospitals and Rottnest Island used as a Covid-19 patient exclusion zone with all tourists banned from the island. The herd mentality is alive and well with shelves stripped bare still some people must have stockpiled so much whilst others missed out my wife and I have been tring to get some shite paper 1 packet and some Aborio rice just 1 packet with no luck so will keep trying we have enough for a month but they are talking a 6 month period to get through this pandemic and even 12 months.
I feel for all the health professionals here our Govt in Western Australia has said they do not have enough ventilators and the Dr's are going to be faced with the decisions like is being made in Italy on who lives or dies due to the lack of resources. Yes our Govt has stated we will be stronger after this but it has taught us this we have like others farmed out allot of manufacturing to a certain asian country whilst our facilities have closed now we are finding with the shipping closed there is nothing being produced on an industrial level. One project down south the EPCM had told all the grano teams to pack up and leave site other businesses are being told to buy up on steel and mesh as soon it to will be unobtainiun as we shut Whyalla down years ago our steel mill in Australia.
Ovidio thank you once again for the updates unbiased and open at what is happening in your lovely country we can only pray that you all pull through this most trying time for our planet which ever way this goes fellows all our respective Govt's need to review the way they deal with off shore countries and support local infrastructure not farming it out because it is cheaper on the other side of the fence. I'm off line for a few days chaps working away so will catch you Wednesday stay safe and look after your family.
Lol Ovidio................
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Of all the places I read on what is really happening around the globe I must say the members of this site are the most rational bunch I know of !!!! Thank you all for your true reporting of what is happening to the common man !!! In my opinion our political powers and media are making thing worse. Again, thank you all and I hope you, your families and friends all make it. From the Blue Ridge Mts.
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To see a Staff Nurse cry having done 63 hours non stop in London wanting to go home to rest before she went back to treat those suffering, to find NOTHING in the supermarket to sustain her health, I think has had an impact on these bastards as it aired on national television on all channels!
I doubt it.
But, I also don't understand why the NHS/Govt haven't put measures in place to provide for NHS staff. They should have made arrangements for priority online deliveries to NHS staff at their place of work that could collect immediately on ending shift.
In the absence of finite advice on how to deal with the virus if it hits you at home other than to self isolate and stay inside and don't mix, spelled out by the Governments, here is a different response from an expert who served hard to prevent its spread which is worth reading, especially the hot drinks and how to treat it.
I personally think it has some great information in it, but one has to follow LOCAL advice too to compliment your recovery.
From a young researcher who had been transferred from Shenzhen to Wuhan to collaborate with the task force that is fighting the coronavirus epidemic, we receive and willingly transmit to all of this clear, simple and accessible information, which describe exactly what it is. The virus, how it transfers from one person to another and how it can be neutralized in everyday life.
Corona virus infection does not cause a cold with a dripping nose or catarrhal cough, but a dry and dry cough: this is the easiest thing to know.
The virus does not resist heat and dies if exposed to temperatures of 26-27 degrees: therefore often consume hot drinks such as tea, herbal tea and broth during the day, or simply hot water: hot liquids neutralize the virus and it is not difficult to drink them. Avoid drinking ice water or eating ice cubes or snow for those in the mountains (children)!
For those who can do it, expose yourself to the sun!
1. The virus crown is quite large (diameter about 400-500 nanometres), therefore any type of mask can stop it: in normal life, special masks are not needed.
On the other hand, the situation is different for doctors and health professionals who are exposed to heavy virus loads and have to use special equipment.
If an infected person sneezes in front of you, three meters away they will drop the virus on the ground and prevent it from landing on you.
2. When the virus is found on metal surfaces, it survives for about 12 hours. So when you touch metal surfaces such as handles, doors, appliances, supports on trams, etc., wash your hands well and disinfect them carefully.
3. The virus can live nested in clothes and fabrics for about 6/12 hours: normal detergents can kill it. For clothes that cannot be washed every day, if you can expose them to the sun and the virus will die.
How it manifests itself:
1. The virus first installs itself in the throat, causing inflammation and a dry throat sensation: this symptom can last for 3/4 days.
2. The virus travels through the humidity present in the airways, descends into the trachea and installs in the lung, causing pneumonia. This step takes about 5/6 days.
3. Pneumonia occurs with high fever and difficulty breathing, it is not accompanied by the classic cold. But you may have the feeling of drowning. In this case, contact your doctor immediately.
How can you avoid it:
1. Virus transmission occurs mostly by direct contact, touching tissues or materials on which the virus is present: washing hands frequently is essential.
The virus only survives on your hands for about ten minutes, but in ten minutes many things can happen: rub your eyes or scratch your nose for example, and allow the virus to enter your throat...
So, for your own good and for the good of others, wash your hands very often and disinfect them!
2. You can gargle with a disinfectant solution that eliminates or minimizes the amount of virus that could enter your throat: in doing so, you eliminate it before it goes down into the trachea and then into the lungs.
3. Disinfect the PC keyboard and mobile phones
The new coronavirus NCP * may not show signs of infection for many days, * before which it cannot be known if a person is infected. But by the time you have a fever and / or cough and go to the hospital, your lungs are usually already in 50% fibrosis and it's too late!
Taiwanese experts suggest doing a simple check that we can do on our own every morning:
Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you successfully complete it without coughing, without discomfort, a sense of oppression, etc., this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating essentially no infection.
In such critical times, do this check every morning in a clean air environment!
These are serious and excellent advice from Japanese doctors who treat COVID-19 cases. Everyone should make sure that their mouth and throat are moist, never DRY. Drink a few sips of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even if the virus gets into your mouth ... water or other liquids will sweep it away through the oesophagus and into the stomach. Once in the belly ... Gastric acid in the stomach will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly ... the virus can get into your trumpets and lungs. It is very dangerous.
Share this information with your family, friends and acquaintances, for * solidarity and civic sense *
'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
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