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    Had somebody I know die of corona....have known quite a few that got it and got over it....have a few friends under quarantine from potential exposure to the virus but no symptoms.

    The person who died was an older fellow....a good friend's father. Friends Mom got the coronas and got over it and quarantined....Father got sick a couple weeks after and tried to walk it off. By the time he sought medical help it was probably too late. He lingered in the ICU for about 15 or 20 days. I suppose the moral of the story is get to the doctor if you suspect you have corona and are an older person

    Of course when bad things happen the weather turns awful....My friend is in Iowa making funeral arrangements for Father....here in Oklahoma we are experiencing an ice storm so myself and another friend are taking care of our grieving friends cattle herd

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    Sorry to hear that.
    I have just heard that my good friend I wrote about a couple weeks ago is out of ICU now. Got out yesterday. Still in need to recover, but out of imminent danger.
    The worst thing right now is that we had no real measures taken for months. Politicians just kept fighting for trivial stuff, about immigration, to destroy all that had been done by the previous governments...
    All along they did nothing of what all professionals were advising to do:
    - improve public transport;
    - help improve the network for efficient home office;
    - introducing staggered hours at school to prevent peak times on buses, trams, the tube...;
    - increase the number of ICU beds available (those who did, Lombardy) have been attacked politically, investigated, criticised by all media, and now... other regions send their ailing citizens to...Lombardy. In the two new Covid hospitals);
    - explain the situation in a clear and unanimous way, and enforce simple rules (social distancing, face protection in closed rooms or when with people, nothing enormous), in order to minimise the risk of infection without killing the economy.
    Nothing has been done, and now they want to close down everything. But after 6PM. Again stupid rules...
    But there is turmoil right now. It started in the South and spread to the North in a couple days.
    Only a few injured until yesterday night, but it could get worse pretty quickly now that it started.
    I am still with my Defcon at three, but am reloading everything I have.
    If I keep this pace, next week I'll be reloading my neighbours cat and dogs...
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Well-- The riots are getting closed to home. Second night of burning and looting in Philadelphia which just across the river from us. The PA governor called up my old National Guard unit for riot control. Needless to say being so close to home, the gunshop is close to being out of firearms again due the current wave of first time buyers. They are buying anything that shoots. We received 30 Troy A4 Other firearms in 5.56mm and we sold everyone in two days!! We had our first shipment of 12 Glock 17 and 19s in 5 months. They were gone in two hours!! Ammo is still tough to get a hold of. The local distributor is holding back on the ammunition as they are ear marked for the police in event of riots which are happening. We are only selling ammunition with the guns we sell. The hoarders have to go elsewhere. The prices on the internet is a new form of highway robbery. I recently seen a case of 500 9mm 115 grain ball re-manufactured rounds go for $999.00 US dollars!! We are still selling PMC 9mm 115 grain for $18.75 per box of 50. Some customers are upset that I will not sell them ammo by the case or single box which are reserved for gun purchases. I usually tell them, "your lack of planning and preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." I have even advise the owner not to sell regular ammo to hoarders and only sale the Critical Duty or Critical Defense rounds for self-protection to the walk in hoarders. As it is the only rounds that can be used for self-defense in NJ.

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    I have started getting pictures and videos from friends of what is going on in Italyicon. Here in Friuli, also in the smaller towns there are flash mobs of restaurant and bar owners, as well as of other business owners and workers, protesting against the new executive orders which force a lock-down of all businesses at 6PM.
    The funny thing is that if you own a bar which also sells cigarettes and has the bingo or tombola, games with prizes and other state-owned or run businesses, you can keep those open, but you have to close the bar. If you knew Italy, you would know that many bars have the counter and, left or right, the tobacco and cigarettes sale and, usually at the side, all the games registers etc. So, you must close down the part of business you own and keep the rest open for the state businesses.
    There is no distinction, separation, distance whatsoever between any part of those businesses. It is all inline...
    Covid ceases where the state makes cash apparently.
    I'd like to start slapping those idiots who write that kind of rules. Slaps in two's, until they reach an odd number...Full hand!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
    Covid ceases where the state makes cash apparently.
    Sounds like there's a problem...
    Regards, Jim

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    Well now here we are hearing about how bad Europe is again. Usual panic rantings from politicians trying to scare people again and some governors shutting things down again. PA continues to reopen somewhat but they are now concerned about increased rates of positives among tests which are averaging over 5%. To me that sounds low. Means 95% of people who think they have it and get tested don't have it. Hospitalizations are a third what they were during the peak with increased capacity so they aren't worried there, YET, always a YET thrown in there. Our town had their little Halloween parade tonight. A lot fewer kids dressed up and almost no spectators but I went to support them. Kids really have to be wondering what's going on.

    My rifle season is apparently a go but still not sure how we are handling matches. Probably the remote type like expected. I have to figure out how to hold tryouts with the kids not having equipment to shoot properly. Can't share soft items. I have a pile of old jackets and a few old gloves. Hope not many new ones want to try out. I have at least 3. They get two days of verbal instruction, will get to watch one round of experienced shooters shoot and then thrown on the range with no set up time or sighting in. I'll just be looking for the shots to hit the target in the same general area. Obviously not the proper way to do it but it is what it is. Have to get the team set at 14 as fast as possible and I usually have 30+ at the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenot View Post
    here in Oklahoma we are experiencing an ice storm so myself and another friend are taking care of our grieving friends cattle herd
    Good to have friends.
    Better to have Good friends.


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    Last Saturday, since my wife finally could again stand up, even though for very limited time and just barely reaching the bathroom, I decided to go and let some "steam" off.
    In the morning I went to the short range and shot my Bernardelli P-One to very good effect, then I shot 50 rounds of WC ammo, reloaded, with the 27-2. Again with great satisfaction.
    In the afternoon, I went to the rifle range and tried the M39.
    It took me a moment to get to the right elevation, but then, although I was a tad distracted, the target came out not too shabby. These are 20 rounds. I pulled one high...a couple low.
    She prints a tad high, but I decided not to touch the rear sight, just go for a group. And, after the first few shots, the group came, nice and clean.
    And the trigger is good too. Heavy, like most military rifles, but clean.
    We'll make friends for sure.
    I'll reload for her tonight. And the next time I'll go for adjustments.

    How's the rest going?
    Don't ask me. We have an executive order every three days lately, without even waiting for the effects of the previous ones, the government farts out the next (sorry for the rude word, but that's how more and more people feel about it, including myself).
    I keep to my personal respectful rules and for the rest, I just live freely. Until now, no trouble with Carabinieri or Police. I hope they'll continue to behave well and judge according to logic and sensibility.
    Two out of three kids (mine) are home. Only the youngest daughter, in fifth grade, still goes to school. For how long? Mah...
    Work? Goes great. I made more than 1.4M sales in October, without ever meeting with a single customer. I'm flabbergasted and very happy about that.
    I also had some direct private contact with a few of us here lately, for different reasons. Very nice. Looks like there is really a great bunch of guys on this forum!

    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    TV season premiers are happening now in the US. Grey's Anatomy. Wife and youngest daughter love it. I've grown to be used to it, even slightly interested in it after being forced to watch it every week. For those that don't know what it is, it's a hospital soap opera. What are they doing in tonight's premier? COVID-19. Everyone is yelling at each other, everyone is having mental breakdowns, the hospital is over run.

    Who the heck wants to watch this crap after dealing with it for the last 9 months? My wife just told me to change the channel to Hallmark and went to do laundry. I just finished posting a jumped the shark meme on facebook.

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    I can't listen to news anymore. Only Covid, always Covid. And contradictory information at that. Imagine if I would watch a comedy which talks about that...
    I see countries like Swedenicon doing well, but no one asks or gives information.
    We have politics being the sole reason for each and every decision taken, not competence or knowledge.
    Communication at its lowest point ever, which is really hard to imagine, especially after what we've been through in the past 9 months.
    Freedom constricted, more and more. And everybody abiding...
    I have had too much.
    I'll keep my common sense rules and not overdo. If I have to get fined, well...I'll get fined and appeal against the fine.
    Too much crap...
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