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    I actually went to a few gun stores recently(central Oklahoma)....common ammo like .223 and 9mm is thin or none. Seems to be a fair selection of handguns available. Nothing much to buy as far as AR rifles...all I saw were high dollar AR rifles.

    I did buy a Winchester 'Canadianicon Centennial' 26" M94 rifle at one store....and a ancient Springfield Model 15 .22 single-shot rifle plus a CZ 82 9x18 pistol at another store. I had to dig my ammo stash for 9x18 Mak ammo but had several boxes of Norinco...some 'B-West' 9x18...plus some Blount non reloadable alloy case 9x18 ammo...a few boxes of Fiocchi(all old stock stash from the 1990's)

    There was a BLM stickered car seen in and around town last week....probably just scoping things out for a protest.....a few weird reports in the countryside of 'solicitors' up to no good. However the climate around here is not very favorable for communism.

    Lots of covid making the rounds in the area....the disease seems fairly mundane and non-lethal at least among the folks I know who have had it. I have not been particularly 'covid safe' and have had no issues(yet). The numbers increase daily however.

    A rather boring report I know...but that's the state of things in my area.

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    Yesterday, on my way back home from Switzerlandicon (all quiet there, by the way), an Israeli customer (and personal friend) called me for the installation of a very big system we need to organise over there.
    We've been having trouble organising it due to Covid, the fact that the maximum time allowed there is one week, after which you have to go into quarantine, and we need several weeks, and so on.
    After a while he told me that he was very worried because there were rumours of a possible lockdown. People don't behave correctly, the religious extremists (all of them, Christians, Jews and Muslims) do not abide to any regulations, normal people are fed up with the government because of poor communication, non convincing measures... in the end, the situation is quickly slipping out of control.
    Fearing the family gatherings during the Yom Kippur, he told me that he was convinced that the government would declare a lockdown, which no-one will follow.
    Now...the thing seems done.
    In my first post I wrote that my biggest fear was bad communication. I guess I got it really right then...
    What a pity.
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    Little lessons in survival techniques:
    Today i prepared some dough for pizza. Now I get to know we’ll be 13 for dinner.
    No worries! The sun always shines on the Alpini (cit. Colonel Roberto Abbiati, a great man!!!).
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    One of those ovens has been on my to-do list for a long time; reading for those of a similar mind: https://www.amazon.com/Bread-Builder.../dp/1890132055

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    These Bravo ovens look good!
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    It has gone national but perhaps not yet international. The riots are now coming here very close to me, County seat, Lancaster PA. I'll keep you informed as to what's going on.

    What happened: Yesterday the police received a report of an armed individual making threats against his mother. The report came from this individuals sister. Police responded. The responding officers body camera footage is here:

    Officer Involved Shooting 300 blk. Laurel St. Body Camera Video 9/13/2020 | Lancaster Bureau of Police

    So anyway, protests ensued shortly after and Antifa was bused in or drove it, whatever, they aren't from here, and the protests became the usual riots in no time. Nothing too severe, a dumpster set on fire, some police vehicles damaged and some prescient windows broken. State police were called in and they cleared them out.

    They have not left, more have arrived now dressed in black and armed which in itself is a little unusual. Have not seen many armed Antifa members but of course it could be because the media isn't reporting them. This information came from a local radio call in show and the report was from someone who drove through the area. Said they were just waiting around, probably till it gets dark tonight.

    They picked the wrong spot I can tell you that. We have a pansy governor who refused to take a side today and the city is run by Democrats but it is surrounded by 300,000 well armed conservatives, has a good police department and the State Police aren't going to mess around no matter what the governor says or does. The city is the lone Democrat stronghold in a Republican county. Now the Amish aren't going to involve themselves but if this gets out of hand, it could get pretty ugly. So we'll see if their promise to take this to the "suburbs" has any meat to it.

    I'm going to be reviewing how various weapons work and where they are located with the wife tonight but as we are 12 miles from the epicenter, not expecting much here. I do have to go through there tomorrow morning to get work done on the truck, we'll see if they decide to try to block the freeways.

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    It has gone International already. Read about it yesterday.
    For what concerns me, I’m heading into “Covid-Country” in Germanyicon’s meat district.
    Let’s see if anything changed since July...
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    All was completely calm here last night. Quiet gathering in a park and that's about it.

    This was kind of weird. I went to bed Sunday with no knowledge anything was going on. We were watching movies and the net was quiet. Monday morning I see things on the net, check the local news and they have the dumpster burning and information on the shooting and show how everything had already been cleaned up including the graffiti.

    Head out to work and the national talk shows are talking about it. This was the weird part.

    I guess it's because this is basically a rural, conservative, fairly famous area (Amish Country) and they were saying it can happen anywhere. But it never really did. News ran the standard mother crying "I didn't ask them to kill him, he needed help" interview. Local news didn't concentrate on that however, they instead spoke of how the cop retreated immediately and really had no choice as everything happened in an instant.

    Well see if anything happens later but at this point it isn't looking like it.

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    You are lucky, it could have been like Charlotte where - Black Lives Matter rioters marched down the street chanting 'Cops killed Jesus' then '**** your Jesus'.

    Just wait to see what happens when Trump wins again; all heck is going to break loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post

    Just wait to see what happens when Trump wins again; all heck is going to break loose.
    They are prepping people for that now. It is not going to be pretty. Civil War is a distinct possibility. All this anger and hate and people being kept unemployed and on lockdown. Soros picking up the slack and paying these people. He's the head of the snake. a lot of willing followers.

    Yesterday, a Federal judge ruled our governor's actions un-Constitutional, at least some of them. Four counties had filed suit. Today, he stood forth and spewed out a huge line of garbage about how great of a job he has done protecting the people of this state and how Pennsylvania is an example for the rest of the Country. Pennsylvania has the 13th highest death rate in the US. Pennsylvania's death rate is almost double the national average. Pennsylvania's death rate is higher than Italyicon's and equal to Spain's. He did not prevent loss of life, he created it by ordering Covid patients into the nursing homes where 70% of all the deaths occurred. He has kept this state shut down for no reason. He spoke of not overwhelming the hospitals and while true, this was accomplished at the very beginning. We NEVER came anywhere close to overwhelming the hospitals in this state. Even New York, as bad as it was was never overwhelmed. We built all sorts of temporary hospitals, sent a Navy hospital ship to NY harbor and none of them were ever needed. It came closest there. PA was never in any danger yet we are STILL shutdown when he today claimed we are not. No public gatherings larger than 25 people has every sport venue shut down. Restaurants at 25% is below the threshold for survival by half. He can't get this overturned. The Federal courts are outside the jurisdiction of the State Supreme Court which he has in his back pocket due to political affiliation. He did however vow to appeal. I don't think it will succeed. He has overstepped, he has an incompetent as his health secretary.

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