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    No4Mk1 maker

    Good Morning Gentlemen (and Ladies, if we have any), Greetings from the Corona Coast,
    My son recently made a trip to middle states and left his firearms with me. He has a fair collection of Enfields and I am almost totally ignorant of the markings, being more interested in US Arms. And I need some help identifying the maker of this No4 Mk1.
    This rifle was purchased some 15 years ago. The only serials that match is the receiver and magazine which is missing in the photos. The magazine serial is an obvious hand stamp.
    I have taken photo of all marking on the rifle (that I can find). I can find no importer stamps but this does appear to be a rebuild but not arsenal. The "ENGLAND" stamp tells me it was imported for sale. The tip of the barrel stamp (pic would not take with camera) "NP", "303 2", "185 TONS".
    Yes, the front sight fell off during the photo shoot and I did not notice until I was done.
    Any help in IDing the maker would be appreciated, Thank you

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    A serial number starting with "1" would be Maltby rodanance factory in the UKicon.

    NP is Nitro Proof.
    .303 the calibre
    2.22" the cartridge case length
    18.5 tons per square inch test pressure.

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    The 'M' stamp on the wrist which looks like the middle is a 'Y' is the maker mark for Royal Ordnance Factory MALTBY as stated above

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
    . I can find no importer stamps but this does appear to be a rebuild but not arsenal. The "ENGLAND" stamp tells me it was imported for sale.
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    The 'ENGLAND' marking is the USAicon pre 1968 Import mark, nothing to do with being 'imported for sale'.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Missing the cross pin for the rear of the bottom wood they come up as a pair sometimes one fleabay in the UKicon, that front sight block looks pretty beat up to hell might be worth sourcing a new on whether you can get the same may be an issue but without that front blade bit its just a noisy pike with the bayonet attached.................!!

    Some other markings on the rifle ~ N82 Chamber Rt side J.Watts, Sheffield, N78 Front Band Victor Engineering & Sheetmetal Co Manchester, SM Top front fore wood cap Singer Manufacturing, N67 Front sight protectors Singer Manufacturing
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    [QUOTE=CINDERS;469566]Missing the cross pin for the rear of the bottom wood they come up as a pair sometimes one fleabay in the UKicon, that front sight block looks pretty beat up to hell might be worth sourcing a new on whether you can get the same may be an issue but without that front blade bit its just a noisy pike with the bayonet attached.................!![QUOTE]

    You know, when I was photographing this rifle, I noticed the holes for the pin but didn't know if a pin was supposed to be in there. Looked it up on Numrich Gun Parts but didn't see one listed nor shown on the parts diagram. Does the pin just hammer in or is it threaded? I found the front sight and reattached it.
    Thanks for the information.

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    To all who responded, 30 Three, Roy W, Alan de Enfield and CINDERS......Thank you for your input.

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    Make sure the front sight blade is a Mk.1* or Mk.3 with the split dovetail which serves to tension it into the solid front sight base. It shouldn't just fall out. The rifle looks to be Parkerized post service.

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    The single pin goes right across both sides and is peened round over on both sides.

    Couple of pics of the items and their identification number from Skennertons SIAS series on 303 Rifle No.4 Mark 1, & 1*, Marks 1/2, 1/3 & 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    Make sure the front sight blade is a Mk.1* or Mk.3 with the split dovetail which serves to tension it into the solid front sight base. It shouldn't just fall out. The rifle looks to be Parkerized post service.
    Reinstalled the front sight. It only went in from left to right. Stamp on sight was "03" on right side and "B" on left. It fits snug but a sharp jar on the left side could possibly loosen it.
    Thank you for the info.

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    [QUOTE=CINDERS;469598]The single pin goes right across both sides and is peened round over on both sides.
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    If I can't find a pin is there a way to use a makeshift pin? How does not having a pin affect the rifle?

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