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    The stamping of the letters looks all wrong and the wood is far too light and smooth for an Ishy. Not legit as far as I can see from this photo

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    Just make sure it's not a Khyber Pass special if you're intending to shoot it!

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    The 7.62 rifles had the ejector screw placed about .25" ahead of those on the .303" rifle. Check the position of the screw against a .303" arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurtonP View Post
    Thanks for the responses so far. It seems like people are having the same thoughts that I am. Namely, it's a 7.62 conversion of a no1 MkIII*, or that it's an early experiment, without the later standard stamp. I wasn't looking at it particularly as a collector rifle, more as a shooter in a cheaper calibre, in a really interesting form. I'm tempted to take a chance either way. Then I can look closer at the other stamps.
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    "On the balance of probabilities I wouldn't have it as a gift".
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    The 7.62 rifles had the ejector screw placed about .25" ahead of those on the .303" rifle. Check the position of the screw against a .303" arm.
    Ah, that is different. The pics show the ejector screw in the normal 303 place. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
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    "On the balance of probabilities I wouldn't have it as a gift".
    Reject for liability reasons rather than value reasons then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurtonP View Post
    Reject for liability reasons rather than value reasons then?
    I would not want to pay money based on the value of an 'original' that turned out to be some ones made-up bitsa.
    On balance I think it is the latter.

    I may be missing a 'once in a life time' very rare rifle, but I am not throwing money at something that doesn't even look 'right'.

    Simply my choice, you may differ, and you have every right to do so.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Is there not also a potential safety issue here, particularly if the body is to be submitted to regular use of modern 7.62mm ammunition of heavier than 144gr bullet weights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    Is there not also a potential safety issue here, particularly if the body is to be submitted to regular use of modern 7.62mm ammunition of heavier than 144gr bullet weights?
    This is a very real problem with No4 7.62 x 51 conversions. People think 308 but not bullet weight. Some just don't get the proof factor or the design limitations of the original use.

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    This is my main concern.

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