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    Mystery Barrel

    Tidying "the crypt" during "confinement":

    Almost 30" long.
    Threaded 14TPI, appears to be Whitworth, as per No4.
    NO driving flat on the Knox Form
    Chambered 7.62mm
    Proofed BNP 20T / Sq. In.
    Marked, about 8 In from muzzle: "Parker Hale, Birmingham Englandicon"
    Parallel step at muzzle for target sights.
    4-groove RH rifling, 1:12"
    NO extractor cut-out.
    Polished and blued.

    Appears to be unused / unfitted.

    Too long for a L42 / L39 barrel.

    "Target special"??

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    Is there a reverse cone machined into the back end obviating the extractor claw machining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
    Tidying "the crypt" during "confinement":

    Almost 30" long.
    Threaded 14TPI, appears to be Whitworth, as per No4.
    NO driving flat on the Knox Form
    Chambered 7.62mm
    Proofed BNP 20T / Sq. In.
    Marked, about 8 In from muzzle: "Parker Hale, Birmingham Englandicon"
    Parallel step at muzzle for target sights.
    4-groove RH rifling, 1:12"
    NO extractor cut-out.
    Polished and blued.

    Appears to be unused / unfitted.

    Too long for a L42 / L39 barrel.

    "Target special"??
    T4 barrel...?

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    Seconded, sounds like a T4 barrel, wheres Gil, our resident PH Guru....

    How about a picture...

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    Were "spare" T4 barrels marked as such?

    This one here only has the 20T proof and the makers marks, no specific model designation.

    The breech end is dead flat; no "reverse cone" or other extractor relief. Maybe "spares" had to be individually "clocked", pre-headspaced and then an extractor cut milled in before final breeching to headspace and full torque.

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    Bruce,

    Your inbox is chokers, mate. Can you send a few old pieces of corro to the bin so we can still talk to you? Thanks mate. Back to the barrel folks...
    Trying to save Service history, one rifle at a time...

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    Might be for a Mauser action rather than a No 4 type due to lack of extractor slot but chamber already cut. If I recall correctly my PH M82 for example has a flat breech end with no cut-out for the extractor.

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    T4 barrels are usually quite short.

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    The T4 and 1200TX had the same 26 in barrel in 1 in 12 or 1 in 14.
    T4's normally superior proofed to 20 Tons rather than normal 19 Tons.

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    Lee Enfields have 14TPI, either "Enfield" form or, No4 and later, Whitworth form. Mausers have twelve TPI, ALSO Whitworth (55deg) form. (There may be exceptions to the Mauser rules, but not the Lee-Enfield one).

    This barrel is definitely 14TPI

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