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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
    Maybe someone made it for practical rifle comps in the UKicon in the early 1990's when .303 surplus ammo was still available at about £16/100.
    If they were using .303's rather than 7.62's surely they wouldn't have needed one as you'd be doing it properly and using stripper clips instead...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    If they were using .303's rather than 7.62's surely they wouldn't have needed one as you'd be doing it properly and using stripper clips instead...?
    Lee Enfield's don't use 'stripper clips'.



    This is a bit of a hot topic on which everybody seems to have an opinion.
    They are not, and never have been called, "Stripper Clips", and if anybody knows where this name comes from then many of us would love to know (we've heard about a dozen explanations so far).
    They are called "Chargers", that is why the Charger bridge on the rifle is so called and why early members of the Enfield family were referred to as "Charger Loaded". Although, we all refer to them as "Clips" more often than we do "Chargers" this is also incorrect as a "Clip" goes into the rifle with the rounds (as on the M1icon) whereas a "Charger" does not.


    07. Charger clips (aka: 5 rounds or 10?) Revised 28/11/17 - Lee Enfield Rifle Association


    Small Arms Training - Pamphlet No3 1937
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    Pedantry at its finest.....

    The point I was making still stands though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    Pedantry at its finest.....

    The point I was making still stands though.
    Correct terminology is important - avoids confusion and mistakes.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    Pedantry at its finest.....

    The point I was making still stands though.
    Its not and dosent.

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    Making mountains outa mole hills ain't ya guys? Regardless to what you choose to call them, chargers, stripper clips, whatever, DO THEY NOT both serve the exact same purpose in the exact same way...and that is to bind individual rounds together so as to facilitate loading of said rounds into the magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage hunter View Post
    Making mountains outa mole hills ain't ya guys? Regardless to what you choose to call them, chargers, stripper clips, whatever, DO THEY NOT both serve the exact same purpose in the exact same way...and that is to bind individual rounds together so as to facilitate loading of said rounds into the magazine.
    Nomenclature is important.

    A Rifle No1 Mk3 and a rifle No3 Mk1, both fire 303 ammunition and shoot the 'Hun'. Both serve exactly the same purpose. Both were used concurrently, but they are NOT the same.

    Is it unreasonable to expect the use of a common terminology to avoid misunderstandings.


    A 'tank of gas' (LPG) in the UKicon is very different to a 'tank of gas' (gasoline) in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    A 'tank of gas' (LPG) in the UKicon is very different to a 'tank of gas' (gasoline) in the US.
    For a time, as a child, I thought that Americans ran their cars on Vaseline (the ointment) because I had miss heard it off a film, Vaseline for gasoline. I couldn't work out why we ran our cars on petrol in the UK but in the US cars were run on an ointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    Lee Enfield's don't use 'stripper clips'.



    This is a bit of a hot topic on which everybody seems to have an opinion.
    They are not, and never have been called, "Stripper Clips", and if anybody knows where this name comes from then many of us would love to know (we've heard about a dozen explanations so far).
    They are called "Chargers", that is why the Charger bridge on the rifle is so called and why early members of the Enfield family were referred to as "Charger Loaded". Although, we all refer to them as "Clips" more often than we do "Chargers" this is also incorrect as a "Clip" goes into the rifle with the rounds (as on the M1icon) whereas a "Charger" does not.


    07. Charger clips (aka: 5 rounds or 10?) Revised 28/11/17 - Lee Enfield Rifle Association


    Small Arms Training - Pamphlet No3 1937
    According to the Lee Enfield Rifle Association a Lee Enfield "charger" is not a clip. If that's the case then neither is the M1 enbloc, technically speaking.
    In the U.S., though the term is seldom used, charging a rifle refers to cycling the bolt in order to move a round from the magazine to the chamber, i.e. chambering a round.
    In the UKicon a charger is the thingy filled with cartridges you insert into the charger bridge of a Lee Enfield rifle for the purpose of filling the magazine, in the U.S. a charger is something you plug you smarty phone, tablet, laptop, ect into in order to replenish its depleted battery.
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