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    EFD Rifles Parts Markings

    I was curious, did EFD Rifles mark their parts for posterity in any way? Is there a way to tell their components apart other than a very fine eye for detail? Or is the lack of view marks and proof marks a dead giveaway?

    If you can ignore the incorrect Dial Sight Plate and Dial Sight Pointer for a P'14 I have an example of what brought up the question. I have seen this marking before but I believe it is a refit or post WW1 Enfield part marking when it is not a Khyber pass fake. Obviously this one is original and has original finish but none of these parts marked this way are EFD Rifles parts are they?
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    RoF Enfield used EFD (as per your photo) but also used the three letters (EFD) superimposed on each other, similar to the Long Branch superimposed LB.

    I cannot find an illustration at the moment of the EFD mark.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    ROF Enfield markings;-

    EFD was introduced circa 1897.

    Superimposed E over F over D was introduced circa 1924.

    If there is no factory inspector view mark or Govt acceptance marking, then the part is likely commercial production by either BSA or LSA.
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    Clarification: everyone seems to have missed that I was talking about EFD Rifles (Ltd?) the private company in Sussex that sells refurbishments and sells reproduction parts; not Enfield the RSAF/Royal Ordnance/BAe Systems arsenal/factory at Enfield Lock.

    Thanks for clarifying when the RSAF switched the style of view/proof mark also.
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    Hmm, I figured someone on the forum must have purchased some of their products over the years.

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    "Two nations divided by a common language".

    For want of a "Ltd." the meaning was lost.

    I didn't guess either, but did wonder what your last sentence was all about. As you say, it generally comes down to wear and patina in the end.

    When I saw your second post the first one made sense.
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    Makers codes are used to identify the guilty bastards if a bunch of parts is defective.

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    The "EFD" mark such as the one marked on the volley sight pointer is
    typical of the mark Jeffrey stamped on some of his reproduction components.
    Its much larger than a proper enfield mark and as already pointed out
    its three distinct letters rather than the combined letter stamp from ROF
    Enfield.

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    Was the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield Lock, ever actually known as "ROF Enfield"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Was the Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield Lock, ever actually known as "ROF Enfield"?
    In my army and early Bisley years it was just known as Enfield Lock.
    I honestly don't know if this was common practise to the wider army and Bisley community, I dared say others have their own thoughts?
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