My Fazzy's barrel

[Atticus Thraxx]

I took a video it turns out I can't post, but attached are some stills. First picture is a straight through shot and the rifling looks a bit worn to me. Next one is further up the barrel. The third one is with a mirror. See those specks? Is that brass way up the barrel? Looks pretty shiny for copper considering the solvents I've tried. Won't come off even with over sized brush. So the question is, considering this is an 87 year old rifle, how worn do the grooves look to you? About normal, because my No4 (T) the grooves seem sharper and appear deeper.(?) Any insight would be appreciated.

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[RobD]

AT, just a thought: do your copper solvents also remove lead? The specks of whte metal make me wonder if they could be lead deposits.
If that's the case, you might rig up a cheap DIY electrolytic bore cleaner, which will work on lead and copper. There are several good methods on the internet incl. youtube which use ammonia, a steel rod [I use a piece of coat-hanger wire with the zinc coating scrubbed off], and a transformer. Be sure to thoroughly de-grease the bore before you do it. Ammonia will harm the finish on your stock, so best remove the fore-end, if not all the wood. Be sure to insulate the steel rod with grommets or similar each few inches of its length. If you see black sludge building up on the [negatively charged] steel rod in the centre of the bore, you are on the right track.
As far as whether the bore is worn, the simplest indication is whether the rifle groups well in the hands of an expert shot.
Good luck!
Rob

[DanL96a1]

AT, I would suggest that you try bore tech eliminator, on a nylon brush and allow to soak overnight. This will not damage the paint, but can remove finish from the woodwork so be careful.

Once the Boretech is completed and dried out, I would then apply sweets 7.62 solvent, again on a nylon brush till clean.

[browningautorifle]

As far as whether the bore is worn, the simplest indication is whether the rifle groups well in the hands of an expert shot.

I have to agree completely. We've seen nice bores not shoot so well for reasons and crap bores shoot like a million bucks. That will also help with the cleaning, to loosen some of the crud. It won't blow up on you...

[Surpmil]

Here for comparison are a few I took of a Ross bore years ago with a cheap bore scope; I see there is a similar problem with depth of field.

Your bore looks evenly rough, and to me that suggests fine, surface corrosion, but have any cast bullets been shot from the rifle? Maybe try a bit of Motty's Paste or similar on a brass jag & 4x2 and see how it looks then?

The Ross bore also had some fine pitting from corrosion as you can see.

[browningautorifle]

The Ross bore also had some fine pitting from corrosion as you can see.

Just a fine fur of rust that wasn't prevented and the beautiful shine is gone, never to be returned as it was...

[Surpmil]

Yes, same condition, the OP's rifle just a bit more of an advanced case. Looks like it has been chemically cleaned, so now best "shot in" probably.

AT: has it had plenty of boiling water through it to get rid of any residues? Looks like a bit of rust colour on the lands - something starting up again post-cleaning maybe?

[30Three]

Looks more Fuzzy than Faz!

[Atticus Thraxx]

AT: has it had plenty of boiling water through it to get rid of any residues? Looks like a bit of rust colour on the lands - something starting up again post-cleaning maybe?

Surp yes I saw that. I'm wondering did I get over zealous with what I poured down the barrel. I have a basket of solvents and gun cleaning aerosols in the garage and I went used most of them. I'm stopping on the way home to pick up a funnel that'll fit and doing the boiling water treatment. Something has persisted and it's time to put down the solvents and get to it.

[Daan Kemp]

Irrelevant bit of useless information. Friend had LB with a dull bore, couldn't get it to shine no matter what he did.

One day on the shooting range with unlimited ammo, he and some others put many many rounds through that LB, so much he called me to listen to the oil cooking out of the wood! Literally could hear the fat frying and see the oil pouring out of the wood! Result? A bore so shiny you could see your face in it!