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    No.4 T shooting at 400 yards.

    I'm going next weekend to Shoot my No.4 'T' at 400 yards - only ever used it at 100 yard before and it is nicely zeroed at that distance. Can anyone tell me how many elevation clicks on the scope I would need to at least get on paper at the extended range??
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    Count the clicks as you turn the drum up to "4" and let us know will you?

    Each click is 1 Minute of Angle, so four inches a click at 400 yards. (Assuming your scope is not a MkI)

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    I am guessing you haven’t zeroed your scope dims to bdu marking. Assuming your ammo is similar to mk7 the following should be true. 100-400 should be 12 clicks. However if you are shooting something like PPU 174 fmj that is quite hot and a bt, when I was shooting this 100-500 yrd I typically set 50 yrds under so if that was the case you would only be adding 10 clicks.

    0-100 = 3
    100 -200 = 4
    200 - 300 = 4
    300 - 400 = 4
    400 - 500 = 4
    500 - 600 = 6
    600 -700 = 7
    700 -800 = 8
    800 - 900 = 9
    900 - 1000 = 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micheal Doyne View Post
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    However if you are shooting something like PPU 174 fmj that is quite hot and a bt, when I was shooting this 100-500 yrd I typically set 50 yrds under so if that was the case you would only be adding 10 clicks.
    I've only used factory PPU through my 4T (with Mk.3 scope) and I've never bothered shooting it at 100yrds, as I only shoot it at 300yrds and 600yrds.

    My scope setting for 300yrds with PPU is dead on number '2', and for 600 yrds its 2 clicks below '5'.

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    I'm using Greek HXP 303 Mk7 so it should work as planned - except IIRC I didn't zero it with HXP but the S&B stuff a few years back - haven't actually used it for about 5 years.

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    Assuming your scope is not a MkI) What is the reason for this comment? Thanks

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    Mk.I scopes have the range increments in 50yd "clicks"
    Mk.IA REL and Mk.II & III/3 scope have them in 1 Minute of Angle "clicks"

    20+ years ago I had a run of index plates made up to fit Mk.I scopes that were also in 1 MOA clicks, so those would be the only exceptions I know of.
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    Interesting, I had a guy swearing blind his Mk1 had MOA clicks, I rather dismissed him, maybe Surpmil is responsible for my needing to pen an apology!

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