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    Pair of Ross rifles from NZ

    Hi all,

    I have been lurking around here for a while, and have just finished this pair. If this is inappropriate as a milsurps post let me know.

    The (now) scoped sporter came to me as just a MK111 action with a sewer pipe barrel, no stock or even receiver bolts. There was no parts to be found here in NZicon so have made the best of a bad situation.

    The factory sporter was acceptable barrel wise but the stock was basically ruined and the bluing was all but gone. Pretty happy with how it turned out.

    Just thought I would share as these things are very rare here in NZ.

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    Nice work on the resurrection and restoration. What scope mount are you you using? I've seen some truly horrible scope mounts used on Ross rifles, but yours looks hardly invasive. Does it provide a secure mount?
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    Welcome and kudos to you for making a working rifle out of parts that probably could have no other use. Why did you set the magazine up a little higher on the Mk.III? What sort of barrel did you use?

    The stock profile wouldn't be my choice, but then it wasn't built for me!

    At this point you probably don't need to be concerned about drilling & tapping for scope mounts, but if you don't want to drill into the barrel ring, a detachable side mount might be an option; something like the Jaeger? EAW also makes similar models I believe.

    Being only held on with four screws the sight and charger bridge is probably going to work loose unless used to mount a very small and light scope or reflector sight etc.

    The 1910-R sporter: always a tough call on refinishing, but it comes to a toss up between the importance and rarity of the piece versus what if anything can be done with it as is. I do like the fact that you didn't sand the H out of the stock.
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    Thanks for the feedback guys,

    NORTHOF60:

    The Scope mount is a rail drilled and tapped into the receiver bridge, with Weaver extended rings, jury is still out on how secure it will be. I plan to fire 50 or so rounds through it this weekend so will report back after that.

    Surpmil:

    The mag is set higher to fit the profile of the stock, bit of a long story there because I had to order an un-inlet stock from Boyds in the US for it, and when it arrived it was thicker than I planned for. By that time we had had massive gun law reforms here that meant importing a different one was going to be a mission so much like most of the project I just made do. The profile of the stock is one I enjoy as it fits me well and is good for shooting off a rest.

    The barrel is a Kreiger ex-target .308 cut to a light varmint profile, the rifle is chambered in .30-303 to allow for better bullet selection (reasonably common here as we have Lee-Enfields coming out our ears).

    As I said above the jury is still out on the scope mount. The reason I went this way and not into the actual receiver is about threefold: First, one of the spare parts I actually have is another receiver bridge, so if I ruin this one not a big issue. Second, I did not want to cover up the receiver markings on the front of the receiver (as I say these are rare here so wanted it to be easily identifiable). Finally, the reason I did not drill and tap the receiver is that I don't have another one! So i will give this a go and see how it goes. Ill let you know once I've shot it. Otherwise i will be looking as you say at side mounts.

    With the R-10 sporter, as you say it was a bit of a toss up. It looked really bad externally when I got it (pic attached). So I just went with a strip and refinish, basically no sanding, because I wanted to preserve the lines. The old dents add character anyway, although those ones around the pistol grip look like someone tried to hammer a nail with it!

    Any other questions let me know,

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    Thanks for the feedback,

    NORTHOF60:

    The scope mount is a rail drilled and tapped into the receiver bridge, with weaver extended rings. The jury is still out on strength, I intend to shoot 50 or so rounds through it this weekend, will report back on how it goes.

    SurpMil:

    The mag being a little higher is a bit of a story, and is related to how it fits in the stock. I had to order an un-inlet stock from Boyds and when it arrived it was a little deeper than I had planned. By the time this had all happened we had some brand new more strict firearms rules, which meant importing another was going to be a massive hassle, so I just made do. I do like this profile for the type of hunting/shooting I do here.

    The barrel is an ex-target Kreiger (about 200 round through) chambered in .30-303 (pretty common here as we have Lee-Enfields out the ears) for better bullet choice, the barrel is like new to look at and is a light varmint profile.

    The reason I didn't drill and tap the receiver for screws is twofold: First, I only have one receiver, but I do have a spare sight bridge, so if it doesn't work I haven't lost anything. Secondly, I wanted to leave the stamping on the top of the receiver (as these are rare here, I didn't want to damage it or cover it up). As above I will be shooting a fair few round through it this weekend, so I will let you know. If it goes wrong or comes loose, I will be looking to find a side mount.

    For the R-10 Sporter, having read enough of the posts here, I decided to just strip and a very light sand. I didn't want to mess with the profile of the stock or anything but it was very nasty (picture attached) and the bluing was all but gone (looks like someone used the stock to hammer a nail!). So it got a re-blue and refinish.

    Any more questions let me know.

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    That all makes sense Kip13.

    What about a long eye relief scope mounted on the barrel? With a QD mount you could keep the iron sights and maybe even charger-load?

    Will be interesting to hear how it goes at the range and how you like the trigger(s)!
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    Thanks NORTHOF60,

    That's a novel idea Surpmil, I will send an update once I've shot it, but that sounds like a good alternate idea!
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    Hi all, been a long time to get a chance to shoot this. Have attached a target I shot, 5 rounds went into about an inch which I was pretty happy with at 100m.

    The reason it took so long is that my scope mount solution broke on my first try and had to be reinforced. So took two trips up to the family farm to get a usable target. Seems to work well now though.

    Have also bought a .280 Ross finally that I have been looking for in NZicon for years, now just to find projectiles.... no permit required to get them into NZ but can't get them out of the US or OZ.

    I also have a MK2 ross which is missing just the magazine box and I can't find one here in NZ, any ideas where to go for one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kip13 View Post
    a MK2 ross which is missing just the magazine box
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