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    1903 "counter sunk" muzzle?

    What do you make of this? It is on a 1903 Springfield rifle.Attachment 110217Attachment 110216 What does the "M" stamp mean? Why was the muzzle crown "counter sunk"
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    Looks to have the remnants of a star beside it too...
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    Isn't the star supposed to be below the bore? That's where it is on my NRA sporter.

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    Yes, six o'clock position.
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    Counter sinking was typically done to a rifle with a damaged/worn crown but the rest of the barrel is good. My impression is that it was a civilian repair. I remember seeing some 1917's for sale with counter boring almost an inch deep

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie5070 View Post
    Counter sinking
    I agree this looks civilian done. Is this one actually counter bored or just a counter sink (AKA) crown?
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    Is that a replacement barrel? The muzzle looks very much like what is seen on replacement barrels like Sedgley and High Standard.

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    It looks like countersinking, not counterboring. The muzzle proobably had bad cord wear (i.e. one-sided abrasion) and the countersinking was done to even up the profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    It looks like countersinking
    To me, I've seen better jobs too. To me it looks like a reamer of sorts applied with force, not a sharp chisel in a lathe.
    Regards, Jim

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    Please oblige us with a picture of the barrel markings behind the front sight. That may give us a clue to answer your question.

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