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    loading data question

    what manuals, books, etc have information for the loading of current production IMR 4895 in the following cartridges:

    8x57

    .308 win
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    Why not just ask the manufacturer them selves? Take Aim at Rifle Reloading Data | Hodgdon Reloading
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    Yes, I’d do like that too.
    Hodgdon is extremely expensive here, so I usually use Vihtavuori for high quality and Lovex for training.
    Lots of data for those powders.
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    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketshaver View Post
    what manuals, books, etc have information for the loading of current production IMR 4895 in the following cartridges:

    8x57 / .308 win
    Lyman 50th Edition and Hornady 10th Edition have it. PM me if you need the load data for any weight.
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    Its our equivilant of ADI's 2206H I use that in my .308WIN APRS exclusively as per manufactures load data for that rifle they built 42gns with 168gn Hornady "A" Max with bench rest primers and lapua cases its one accurate rifle reloading is a definite art as each animal is different what works in one rifle may not work in another half the fun is finding the right combo.
    My first barrel on my 6.5 x 284 I burned up getting loads for it with 4 different projies and 4 different powders over the 10 ranges we shoot as here in Aust we are subject to what we can get out of the USAicon as far as Bergers, Hornady & Seirra projies and powders like RE-19-22, Vihtavuori & Win we can often suffer drought on all of the above hence bulk buying is the norm.
    You can have a pin hole group at say 100m but its at the longs like 1000yds where you hard work pays off as the dispersion is negligible at 100m although some loads doing the ladder test certailnly showed no point in putting the 4th round into the group.

    You can never have too many reloading books think I have 15

    Vihtavuori N-165 when I brought 2 Kgs of it some time ago was $140/AUD per kilo so $520 for a 4kg lot.
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    not every reloading book is worth having. Sure the specialty stuff can be fun, but when so many simply republish what the others have done if it isn't something they felt like testing...

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    The answer is none. Reloaders cannot get the powders used by the assorted ammo makers. They do not publish what components they use anyway. The manufacturers load for a specific velocity range at SAAMI spec pressures and they don't use the same powders commercially available. Plus, they can use one powder for one lot of ammo and another for the next.
    I'm partial to the Lyman manual. It's more versatile than any bullet or powder makers book.
    And you'll find IMR4064 is more consistently accurate than 4895. At least in .308. I don't load 8mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunray View Post
    Reloaders cannot get the powders used by the assorted ammo makers
    Not true, they just assign another number to identify their powders usually to hide identity. Often it's just a fact that they simply don't disclose the powder.
    Regards, Jim

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