Peened screws on Mint 1917 rifle.

[Flying10uk]

When I studied German, my German tutor who was Swiss said that if there wasn't a "German word" for something then, sometimes, a word would be borrowed from another language, such as English. I realise that it is not a very good example, in this context, but it is the only example that I can remember, off the top of my head, because a fellow student tried to pronounce it "the German way" which sounded amusing to hear and ensured that I remembered it. Apparently, there isn't a German word for "Cornflakes" and so the English word is used, pronounced the English way. I assume that my German tutor was correct in this since she was Swiss and a native German speaker.

[Ovidio]

And in Italian? Ribattute?

[cplstevennorton]

In the WW1 Army Ordnance docs it applies the vast majority of them were factory staked because it mentions that the wood would conpress over time and the screws should be checked by breaking the staking.

I've owned maybe a half dozen all original M1917s and all were staked.

I am not a huge researcher of the M1917 but I guess I has assumed this was common knowledge.

If I remember where that document was I will come back and post it

[Promo]

When I studied German, my German tutor who was Swiss said that if there wasn't a "German word" for something then, sometimes, a word would be borrowed from another language, such as English. I realise that it is not a very good example, in this context, but it is the only example that I can remember, off the top of my head, because a fellow student tried to pronounce it "the German way" which sounded amusing to hear and ensured that I remembered it. Apparently, there isn't a German word for "Cornflakes" and so the English word is used, pronounced the English way. I assume that my German tutor was correct in this since she was Swiss and a native German speaker.

Works the opposite way too. Kindergarten or Rucksack for example .

[RC20]

the only staked are the actions screws, I have one not staked at all, the rest staked but its a joke as they are too far off the screw to affect anything.

If all have been staked someone was after it.

Who did the staking is ? They are not bare so tends to mfg not post repair (none of them are originals and and due to parts changes, looks to have been out of the stocks.

[72 usmc]

see this

“The U.S. M1917 and the U.S. M1903-A4 Rifles have band screws with hollow shanks. These screws were staked to expand the screw shanks thereby locking them into an assembly with the bands -which were not intended to be removed from the rifle. In addition, the Eddystone and Winchester M1917 rifles have the trigger guard screws staked in place. They too were not meant to be removed from the rifle. On the above rifles, every part except the sear and trigger can be source identified by markings or features. The reduction in value of an original rifle caused by disassembly is far greater than any increase in value precipitated by identifying the source codes of the sear and trigger.”

J. C. Harrison, page 15 “P-17 The American Enfield”

Both my original Winchester and Eddystone M1917s have the trigger guard screws staked.

source: US Model 1917 Enfield Rifle cleaning question. - FIREARMS ORDNANCE - U.S. Military Forum

also the C.S Ferris book, United States Rifle Model 1917, 2004 is a very good book on us enfield history and use.


some nice info in writeup, The U.S. Rifle, caliber .30, M1917 ©2003by Dick Culver : http://www.odcmp.org/503/rifle.pdf

[RC20]

Makes sense now that you pointed out the hollow type screws on the bands.

Also, the weirdly named Rear Axis screw Rear Joint Screw was staked.

[Surpmil]

Staking was a common British practice and probably widespread in the British Commonwealth as a result.

In North America we would call staking "center-punching".

Peening in the context of fastenings would refer to the use of a hammer to "mushroom" the end of a bolt or screw or pin etc.; the word has other usages of course.

[Promo]

Staking was a common British practice and probably widespread in the British Commonwealth as a result.

Now I understand why there is no German word for it. On German rifles they used securing screws or pins. So they didn't need a word for it (fun fact: the Czech did this on the G.33/40 rifle. I wonder if there is a Czech word for this?).

[RC20]

In North America we would call staking "center-punching".

No, center punching is putting a dimple in a specific place for drilling.