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[GeeRam]

What really hacks me off at the moment is that the Army is distancing itself from the NRA and abandoning the need for civilian marksmanship when the L96 was based on Bisley shooting! The NRA is facing being ditched by the Charities Commission because of this..!

Is that the fault of the Army or the MOD though?

From what I've heard of the ever increasing issues of civilians using MOD ranges, it's usually Landmarc/MOD generated and often resolved when an senior Army officer steps in to resolve the matter. We all know the Govt would like to stop civilians owned firearms, and with so much contractorisation of MOD, the Govt have more tools available to create problems for access to MOD ranges. The NRA don't help matters when they are so Bisley-centric.
I'm lucky in that I happen to live close enough to Bisley, but if I didn't I'm not sure the extra hassle involved to shoot distance would be worth it.
The problems with the 3 service Cadet groups being able to shoot on a regular basis is also not helping, and again, that link to NRA and charity status is making it difficult to retain that charitable status. NRA have issues as well in their own organisation which really need addressing, the National in NRA really isn't National in any way. To many outside the home counties, the National part of NRA title is a joke.

[Strangely Brown]

What really hacks me off at the moment is that the Army is distancing itself from the NRA and abandoning the need for civilian marksmanship when the L96 was based on Bisley shooting! The NRA is facing being ditched by the Charities Commission because of this..!

I think any distancing was started by the MOD's accountants who wondered why HM government were giving the NRA a million?? rounds every year to run the Imperial and in turn the army could use Bisley for major competitions. Somebody must have pointed out the number of ranges available next door at Pirbright!

Sadly civilian shooting is viewed in a bad light by the army, the NRA put on a days shooting at Altcar a few years ago to attract shooters to Civilian Service Rifle which was then termed as "militia" training by an officer who had viewed it, this was then written up as such in an official communique and fire with movement promptly stopped on MODS ranges for civilians.

Don't get me started on the state of the army clubhouse at Bisley which requires serious work to the veranda roof; the NRA have asked for it to be tided up a request which looks from my standpoint as being ignored.

[GeeRam]

Sadly civilian shooting is viewed in a bad light by the army, the NRA put on a days shooting at Altcar a few years ago to attract shooters to Civilian Service Rifle which was then termed as "militia" training by an officer who had viewed it, this was then written up as such in an official communique and fire with movement promptly stopped on MODS ranges for civilians.

He deserves a bloody

[Surpmil]

I think any distancing was started by the MOD's accountants who wondered why HM government were giving the NRA a million?? rounds every year to run the Imperial and in turn the army could use Bisley for major competitions. Somebody must have pointed out the number of ranges available next door at Pirbright!

Sadly civilian shooting is viewed in a bad light by the army, the NRA put on a days shooting at Altcar a few years ago to attract shooters to Civilian Service Rifle which was then termed as "militia" training by an officer who had viewed it, this was then written up as such in an official communique and fire with movement promptly stopped on MODS ranges for civilians.

Don't get me started on the state of the army clubhouse at Bisley which requires serious work to the veranda roof; the NRA have asked for it to be tided up a request which looks from my standpoint as being ignored.

An amusing anxiety in view of conditions in the USA where the citizenry are 100x more militant and 100x better armed and the US Army seems to suffer from no such concerns.

Still, the agenda referred to is secret only from those who prefer not to face it, and what underlies it. Ambitious officers can always be found who will polish the politicians' apples.

The real keeners don't even wait to be told what to say; they've been sniffing the wind and are just waiting for a chance to demonstrate their "loyalty".

"To the war of ideas and a quick promotion!"

[Mk VII]

At one time the NRA used to get the use of a Btn. for twenty-eight days to run the Bisley meeting - those days are long gone now.