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    Quote Originally Posted by 30Three View Post
    What was the last thing done to the rifle prior to it failing in this way?
    i bought these rifles a few months ago and never fired them, i figured that i should check out all the mechanics before using live rounds,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    If exactly the same thing happens with both rifles & you have tried the above & it has not worked, then as has been mentioned, perhaps you have a problem with your dummy rounds? If the rims are thick you may well have a problem opening the bolt. If you have any spent cases that fired, extracted & ejected satisfactorily through the rifles, try those, if you've not already.


    so as suggested by some that i should use a mallet to hammer the bolt upwards, and that works but i sure would like solve the problem instead of having to do this every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltcarrier View Post
    Ibought these rifles a few months ago and never fired them, i figured that i should check out all the mechanics before using live rounds,
    Have you done ANYTHING to these two rifles since you bought them, have you removed anything. cleaned anything, stripped it down ?

    It looks as if it is the bolt head sticking, did you remove the bolt head, extractor screw, extractor ?
    Have you removed and dissasembled the safety or trigger group ?
    Everything is interconnected and a slight mismatch in one area can have a big effect in another.

    I'm still thinking it could be your rounds - it is so unlikely that two separate rifles of different types should exhibit the same problem at the same time.
    Are you sure those are 303 dummies ?
    Do you have any live 303 rounds that you can pull the bullet and tip out the powder and try ?
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    You have an "extraction" problem, not an "ejection" problem. (They are separate functions).

    The most likely culprit is the brass cartridge case that you are testing (function) with.

    It is likely that it was fired in a rifle with a sloppier chamber than the two rifles you are trying it in.

    Being over-size, the case is likely seizing-up in the tighter rifle chambers.

    IMHO - It is a 'stuck' case that is causing the difficulty in opening the bolt.

    Clean both of your rifle chambers and try using a properly sized cartridge case.

    (BTW - Your No.4 rifle's "Receiver-Ring" has been 'drilled & tapped' for a scope-mount. You should make sure there are no burrs or roughness on the inside of the Receiver that are dragging on the bolt-head).
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    p.s. - You should not need to use a "mallet" to open your Lee-Enfield rifles!

    The simple answer is that the cartridge-case you are using is 'overly expanded' for your rifle chambers.

    This would be a problem in any make of rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boltcarrier View Post
    i figured that i should check out all the mechanics before using live rounds,
    I wonder...do you have the problem in BOTH rifles without drill ammo? You won't have with live I'm sure. We're getting no answers to our suggestions of thing to try so this thread just runs...

    Two different rifles have the SAME problem?

    I see the video but without it in my hands it's difficult to say. I'm not that far away, let's get together.
    Regards, Jim

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    It's probably been said already, but remove the forend so you can see the underside of the receiver and bolt. If you have two with the same problem (and from the same source) you may have someone's attempt to make the rifles inoperable without actually deactivating them.

    If you've got empty cases jammed in the chambers as some posts suggest, tap it out with a cleaning rod while someone gently rotates the bolt. If you're not sure what is in the chamber(s) get a gunsmith to deal with it.
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    Remove the extractor from the bolthead and see what happens.
    If the problem is still there. Remove safety asambly and so on.

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    In the video I get the impression that the safety lever is not fully forwards. If I remeber correctly these are multi start threads and can be fitted out of sync'.
    Remove the safety assy and test again with your dummy round.

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    i will try to take more videos with the two rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltcarrier View Post
    i will try to take more videos with the two rifles.
    NO!! You need to look at the suggestions already posted and answer them one at a time.

    I'll bet the problem has already been solved. Not more vids, do what we suggest and eliminate possibilities.
    Regards, Jim

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