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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    NO!! You need to look at the suggestions already posted and answer them one at a time.

    I'll bet the problem has already been solved. Not more vids, do what we suggest and eliminate possibilities.

    sorry I didn't answer each suggestion separately but I have tried all that was suggested.

    the safety, the extractor, check for the right cartridges, bolt head, etc.

    one thing I would like to point out is that I actually have three lee enfields, only two of them have problems, the third is also a no4 and it works perfectly well with the same dummy cartridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltcarrier View Post
    two of them have problem
    Exactly. They may have smaller chambers. Stop using those dummy cartridges. Do they function without drill rounds? If so then go on to the range, they'll be fine.

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    I have tried all that was suggested.
    You need to answer all as we'll either keep suggesting those things or stop altogether.
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    Are your dummies spent cases from the third rifle? If so you are seeing an object lesson in why you have to segregate cases from different rifles for reloading if you don't full length resize. Every chamber is a little different.

    How hard is it to close the bolt? If it requires as much force to close as it does to open, why are you forcing it closed? If not - try ****ming the bolt and seeing where it is rubbing, if you can't find unusual wear marks without it.

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    My son and I each have a No4Mk2; the chambers are different, or at least not the same. What chambers smoothly in mine doesn't in his, and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 30Three View Post
    In the video I get the impression that the safety lever is not fully forwards. If I remember correctly these are multi start threads and can be fitted out of sync'.
    Remove the safety assy and test again with your dummy round.
    Very astute, but will the safety actually go fully into its slot if the two parts are not correctly aligned?
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    So after following all the valuable suggestions, and by the process of elimination where applicable, I nailed it down to the cartridges. many of you have the correct suspicion that the cartridges could be the culprit. I have been using the same three dummy cartridges (from other rifles) and got the same problem of the bolt getting stuck and refused to uncock. so i decided to use different dummy cartridges and from other spent shells and a couple of them actually ejected correctly, albeit, still need a bit of pushing but the bolt is not stuck. two of the new dummy cartridges came out ok but the third still needed a but of force but it did eject.

    when i examined the rim, there are rough edges on all three of them. I guess that could be the extractor is not within correct tolerance.

    And all three have scratches on the bodies as well as the bullets as if they were rubbing against something.

    i appreciate all the input and i learn something about the lee enfield, it's a very interesting gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltcarrier View Post
    ...............I have been using the same three dummy cartridges (from other rifles) and got the same problem of the bolt getting stuck and refused to uncock. so i decided to use different dummy cartridges and from other spent shells and a couple of them actually ejected correctly.........................
    I thought the problem was EXTRACTION, you never got the bolt open to be able to EJECT them.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Scratches? Length or around? Which rifle? Something in the chambers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    I thought the problem was EXTRACTION, you never got the bolt open to be able to EJECT them.
    with the new dummy cartridges, i was able to extract, two of the ok, third needed a bit of muscle, but all were able to extract,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    Scratches? Length or around? Which rifle? Something in the chambers?
    i am not sure, the rim was roughed up. ie normally smooth, but now i can feel small rough along the rim.

    and the scratches like length wise, as if the cartridges a bit too large for the chamber.

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    Have a close look at the chamber(s) of your rifles in case there is anything stuck to the walls, or, as I have seen before, there are any patches of corrosion in the chambers. This might also give hard extraction & would put scratches down the sidewalls of the cases when you did finally get them extracted. Just a thought.......many years ago I bought a MkV SMLE that had recently been submitted to & passed proof, but the first time I took it down to the range the bolt stuck shut after firing the first round. It turned out that whilst the bore was fine, headspace was fine, but the chamber was badly pitted. Neither I nor the Proof House had noticed......we look for pitting in the bore, but how often do we routinely closely examine the chamber? It taught me a lesson....!

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