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    carbine late rear sights

    Years ago I restored two carbines, a NPM 4,2 million and a QHW 1,6 million, both having original barrel barrels. I put aside the adjustable rear sights and forgot about them until I found them again in a box. My question, what kind of value do these sights have now as I would like to sell them. In checking around, prices are all over the place. I have the photos:Attachment 112288Attachment 112289Attachment 112290
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    FWIW I got between $28 and $30 plus shipping for some Stamped Rear sights I sold last year on the CMPicon forum. Yours looks better finish wise so maybe a few extra dollars.
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    I can't tell...
    Is one Milled ?
    I'd Bump AFJon a little.
    A stamped Adj about $35. A milled about $45.
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    Thanks Charlie as I was thinking about $60 or $65 for the pair.

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    I might have to sell my spares at those prices.
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    carbine peep sights

    Also I found some carbine peep sights, just the peep sight not the dovetailed base. These were in an old gunshop that was closing. Not common to see them without the base, some are marked and some unmarked, these are all NOS having never been installed.

    Anyone have any idea as to value ?

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    Looks like they are reproduction parts to me.

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    Hi Nigerian Bobbie,
    I know RCS has had these a long time.
    I inquired about em but never followed up.

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    Thanks Charlie, i found these L shaped peeps in an old gun shop that was going to close up. One of the employees who only worked in the key section,
    a man named Wolton Miller, told me his mother was an inspector in Chicago where they made carbine parts during the war.

    I don't have any idea if these are fake parts but they were in the gun shop along time before I found them

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    Mixed up a real and repro leaf

    I managed to find a old post of mine from 2010. I had a Flip Sight that had a nearly rusted in half spring. It caused the leaf to just flop back and forth, having lost spring tension.
    I bought a Repro sight from Nick Daley (sp?) to rob the spring from. IIRC at that time you couldn't find these springs listed for sale anywhere. Anyways I took the New Repro and the real one apart to swap the spring. Project got put on hold and when I got back to it I couldn't remember which Leaf was the real one.
    I posted pictures here and fellow member ScottR pointed out which Leaf was the Real one, by comparing the bottom pivoting area that contacts the leaf spring.


    Below are the 2 Flip Leafs I had mixed up, #1 is Left, #2 is Right:



    Below: #1- Left One From Above:



    Below: #2- Right One From The Top Picture:



    Second Picture #1 Was Decided as the Original GI Leaf.

    Link to that post:
    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=22458

    Also:
    Wasn't there just 1 style bottom pivoting area on all GI Flip Sights ?

    I recall seeing one of the Spec manuals FM23 -7 May 1942 that shows the side profile/alignment when the short leaf is in the upward position.
    This seems to show that going up from the center of the pin hole would line straight up Flush with the outer edge of the small peep thru hole of the blade.

    But there must have been a change or the Sight wasn't built this way because my above example would not line up the center pin hole straight up to the front edge of the small leaf.

    Other changes can be found in FM23-7 like dropping the Hammer Stop on page 8

    See Top Illustration on page 3:
    http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerd...237/FM23-7.pdf

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    NOT SURE WHY THIS LINK ABOVE NO LONGER WORKS.

    AM TRYING ANOTHER LINK TO FM23-7 FROM 1942 BELOW:


    FM 23-7 U.S. Carbine, Caliber .30, M1 1942 : United States. War Department : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive


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