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    Golden State Enfield?

    Hi everyone, Merle here from Georgia. Due to a recent death, have acquired a Lee Enfied type rifle. Would like any knowledge you may have to what I have here, once I figure out how to post pix here

    Missing magazine, any idea where to acquire???
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    You have a Lee Enfield No4 rifle manufactured in Canadaicon at the Long Branch plant.
    After doing 'service' it was sold off into the Civilian gun market in the UK and received UK proof marks to show it was 'safe' to shoot.
    Sometime pre 1968 it was imported into the USAicon and import marked "Englandicon"
    It was then subsequently cut down, sporterised and fitted with a No5 butt.

    I believe they were sold as 'Tanker' rifles (although no such thing existed except in someones imagination) with the explanation that they had to have short barrels to be able to get out of a tank turret.

    An example of what can be done to a rifle, but of little collector value.
    If you want a 'truck-gun' it'll be fine.
    If it was a family members rifle, keep it as is and think of your loved one whenever you use it.
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    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    BRP (Winder, GA) generally has No4 Mk1 magazines in stock.

    No.4 Mk.1 Stock, Trigger Magazine Parts, SMLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtsens1 View Post
    Missing magazine, any idea where to acquire???
    You could also place a WTB ad here in the correct forum, I'll bet someone here has one in his pocket... Don't get the odd looking Promag for these by the way. Take an original #4 mag...
    Regards, Jim

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    Golden State produced these rifles under the Sant Fe trade name from standard Lee Enfields, in many models. Should be a good shooter.

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    I have one of these with the shortened 5 round "hunting magazine"
    They were actually very well executed at a time when these surplus
    rifles were considered cheap over supply. junk rifles.
    They also made a copy of the "Jungle Rifles"

    See the ad where real Jungle carbines were ......$24.95
    Which was a lot of money in 1960

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    Bayonets were $1.00 with rifle purchase Owwwwwww!

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    For a shortened 5 round magazine you start with a normal magazine. Cut magazine at trigger guard level, solder in bottom plate, break off one spring leaf. Done.

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    Thanks for all the great info everyone!!!

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    No. 4 Mk I* bubba'd into a carbine. The butt stock is the same and may be a real No. 5 Rifle(aka Jungle Carbine) stock. Same mag in a No. 5 as a No. 4.
    Gunparts currently has No. 4(they list No. 4 parts under 'SMLE' for some reason. Been yelling at 'em for more than 20 years that a No. 4 is not an SMLE) mags on sale at $39.95. Regular price is $54.75. They list .303 Brit charger clips at $2.75 each too.
    No. 1 Mk III mags do not fit in a No. 4 unless the bottom locking lug is ground off. Difference between the mags is the No. 1 mag has 2 locking lugs while a No. 4 mag has 1.
    Sarco wants $30 for a repro mag. $3 for a charger clip.
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    Golden State/Sante Fe produced ggod rifles from no 1 and no 4 Lee Enfields. Not bubba'd.

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