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    26 Nov 2020 Garand Picture of the Day



    Signal Corps photo 27 May 1944 (Italyicon) Kamerad! Trapped in Cisterna by advancing Fifth Army infantry these Germans raise their hands in surrender while being searched for hidden weapons. The picture was taken immediately after the Nazis came out of a ruined building from which they kept sniping until out of ammunition. In front is captive's gear which they brought out with them. Germans will change from helmets to hats after being searched.
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    That really frosts me... they snipe all day and when they are out of ammo they want to quit? Too late in my book.
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    I remember a story that if an American surrendered with an empty rifle the Germans shot them conversely if surrender with ammo they were spared

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    The U.S., Britainicon and their allies were fighting the Nazis; it was important to try not to behave like Nazis while doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    The U.S., Britainicon and their allies were fighting the Nazis; it was important to try not to behave like Nazis while doing so
    Quite correct, although war crimes were committed on both sides. The winner determines the result. However, the Allies weren't fighting the Nazi, which was the political party, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    Quite correct, although war crimes were committed on both sides. The winner determines the result. However, the Allies weren't fighting the Nazi, which was the political party, I believe.
    Agreed. There are accounts of crimes from all sides, and not a few of them also. Some people turn into beasts when they are given the chance to get away with it, independently from their culture and from their nationality.
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    Shoot the officer or senior NCO in charge, take the men prisoner.
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    As an officer, I'm not sure I like that way of thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    However, the Allies weren't fighting the Nazi, which was the political party, I believe.
    Judging from what I've seen and what my parents have said Nazism was more than a political party, it was an ideology.

    The UKicon's most highly sensitive secrets from WW2 will be held for 100 years and so we have to wait another 19 years to find out some of the unpalatable secrets that occurred in WW2 that we in the UK would rather the rest of the world didn't know about. It will be interesting to find out how many files have "gone missing" over the last 100 years.

    Italianicon prisoners of war were considered such low risk in the UK that their POW camps didn't always have a fence.

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    I agree with Ovidio. Murdering POW reflects extremely negatively on the leadership of the persons doing it, as well as informing the world what kind of country they come from. As well as being against the laws of war. As well as condoning the enemy to do the same. Etc.

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