tired ol steyr m95

[Jay2020]

I finally got the 8x56 dummy stuff. It wouldn't go all the way in the chamber. I guess it is fairly safe to say I am going to really search for ome 8x50. What is this rifle.i keep looking at it and wondering

[Eaglelord17]

I finally got the 8x56 dummy stuff. It wouldn't go all the way in the chamber. I guess it is fairly safe to say I am going to really search for ome 8x50. What is this rifle.i keep looking at it and wondering

Honestly this really has me curious as well. I happen to quite like the Mannlicher rifles and variants as they aren't really a well documented area and they also tend not to be faked as much as others so they tend to be more 'as issued or left service' rifles than most firearms (lack of common ammo and as such the desire to sporterize protected many, as well as later surplus dates).

What we do know out of this rifle for 100% sure is it is a Stutzen stock, a 8x50r barrel and receiver, and a odd bolt with stamped serial numbers but is not a Bulgarian bolt, a long rifle rear sight, and the front sight is a long rifles style of front sight. The stock has been re-numbered to the rifle but it isn't original to the rifle as it was originally issued.

My current thoughts are leaning towards the idea that someone who was using M95s post-WWI (possibly Italy but no definitive proof of that) and no spare parts had a Stutzen fail or get damaged in service and/or a M95 long rifle get damaged in service/used as spare parts and wished to replace the Stutzen. They then cut down the long rifle, remounted the front sight on the shortened barrel, and restocked it in the Stutzen stock they had. The Italians did prefer the carbine/short rifle configuration so maybe one of their armourers did it as a one off as they weren't manufacturing new parts for the rifles. This last bit is speculation but I can't give much more than that with the unfortunate lack of markings on the rifle. It is a interesting piece though!

[Jay2020]

Thanks. I'm gonna keep at it

[Jay2020]

Last night we received the news that Inga, that's what I call her chambered at 8x50. So an original? Carbine stutzen or vice versa. No need for s

[Eaglelord17]

At the moment I figure it was a cut down long rifle that was made into a short rifle for some nation who likely didn't have spare parts for the weapons system. Wouldn't be a hard conversion, just cut a bit off the barrel, cut down the thickness at the end slightly, and remount the front sight. As a machinist I could do that in 2-4 hours. I think short rifle is really about the best term your going to find for it as I doubt whoever was using it at that point was calling them by the original designations.

[Jay2020]

Well I am embarrassed to say what happened last night. I decided to take my 8x56 dummy rounds and put them in a strip and try to load them. Well they loaded just fine. I guess taking one round and shoving it in there is not the way to do it. Now I know that I have a converted corbine in 8x56 with the stamps ground off.sorry if I wasted anyone's time but until then I had no idea. Thanks

[Eaglelord17]

No problem, it was very interesting.

Just a heads up shoving the round in there and closing the bolt is a excellent way to destroy the extractors on M95 rifles as they aren't designed to 'cam over' them. It is one of the most common broken parts on those rifles for that exact reason (usually people don't have the Mannlicher clip and just want to try shooting it). Enjoy the rifle!

[Jay2020]

I had a casting done of my carbine yesterday and it turns out it is a 8x50. It seems after the ww1 when the Austrians gave Italy a bunch of 95s as part of reparations the Italians converted them to carbines. The did not change the fact that they were 8x50. The only ones. They also left nothing like an s or h. There is a wiki page on Italian 95s and also this link. Finally
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann95It.htm