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    Ruth Mentions Type II SG Stock marked OI/40A, Found OI 39 A

    In War Baby, In the summing up Saginaw's Carbine Program,
    In the stock section page 435, Larry mentions:

    Type A, Variation 1 with the I cut Oiler Slot (Type I) was found with RMC 40 A

    Type A (M1icon), Variation 2 with Oval Oiler Slot (Type II) was found with sling well marking of OI 40 A.

    Type A (M1), Variation 2 with Oval Oiler Slot (Type II) was found with sling well marking with upside down U and a 7.

    Type A (M1), Variation 2 with Oval Oiler Slot (Type II) was found with sling well marking with RSG and 9 A.

    Type A (M1), Variation 2 with Oval Oiler Slot (Type II) was found with sling well marking with 75 E RSG

    Type A (M1), Variation 2 with Oval Oiler Slot (Type II) was found with sling well marking with RSG 88 F

    Type A (M1), Variation 4 with Oval Oiler Slot with modified slide clearance cut and was found with sling well marking with RSG 105 B. This one noted use during late production.

    There is no mention of Serial numbers ranges to the letter/number codes I could find.
    Which leads me to think he was just using observations from examples he looked at.
    Am I wrong ?
    Where was Larry heading with this information? Did he believe the letter/number codes used by Saginaw SG had some rhyme and reason to them, maybe a increasing number and letter as production moved forward ?
    IF Based on increasing number/letter codes... Could these have been based on Deliveries as accepted by SG?
    I've often thought the added markings could have been applied by a In House Stock Inspector at Saginaw, before assembly commenced in that stock. Assume they would have inspected deliveries and possibly used different gages and jigs to inspect them with. Maybe numbers/letters were related to order numbers/invoices. Letters to a inspection section and or shift.
    I think back to the picture of a Robert Irwin worker checking the actions fit in a new made stock.
    And would think SG would double check before wasting any labor on a stock to be found later to be out of spec


    There is also no mention of the Type II TRIMBLE TN stocks that were used by Saginaw SG.
    2 examples pictured below.

    I'm asking because I happened across a older post here today from a member in Europe that showed his SG 3.37M that appears as Original.
    His Sling Well is marked 1 digit below the 2nd example listed above of OI 40 A.

    Here is SG 3,37 mil with OI 39 A in the Sling Well:










    Has there been any Updates I'm not aware of with the Letter/Number markings found in Saginaw used stocks ?

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    Post your findings here: SG Carbine stock markings-Serials

    1-S.G. Letter and Number Sling Well observations.
    2-Stock Type (I, II, III)
    3-Stock Maker's Letter Markings
    4-Serial# if known
    Its OK to post observations of loose S.G. Stocks


    Any single digit in the Sling Well should be scrutinized for a weak stamp.


    Number/letter. Stock Type. Stock maker. Serial # if available


    6B High Type II RSG Serial# 3,256,01x
    U7 High-TII (?) No Serial#
    8A Type ? RSG Serial# 3,262,680
    9A High-TII RSG No Serial#
    34F High RSG 3,35 CCNL 341
    39A High OI 3,37 NON COM
    40A High- TI RMC No Serial#
    40A High-TII OI No Serial#
    41B High-TII TRIMBLE/TN+SG Ser# Unknown
    SG and Bomb- High-Type II TRIMBLE TN Serial Unknown AA rebuild
    43F High-TI RMC Ser# 3,348,822
    45D High OI 3,38 CCNL 319
    47E High-TII RSG No Serial# Stock Only
    48D High (?) TRIMBLE TN/TSG 3,384 NON COM
    49E High RSG 3,39 CCNL 319
    51A High-TII (cut to TIII) RSG Serial# 3,328,8XX (?)
    51E High-TII RSG No Serial# Stock Only
    53E Low- Type III RSG Serial# 5,858,07x
    62C High RSG 3,42 CCNL 308
    75E High-TII RSG No Serial#
    82E High- Type II RSG Stock Only
    88F High-TII RSG No Serial#
    102A Low- TIII RSG Serial# 5,861,526
    105B Low RSG Only noted late production
    105F Low RSG 5,56 CCNL 281
    G105 Low RSG Serial# 5,866,260 COM CCNL 356

    (?) Serial # when received. Not known if original to stock

    **Mental NOTE: Need to check 2 COM's: CCNL 120 for SG 5,864,xxx
    and NL 281 for SG 5,864,2xx **


    ****We need others to report on their SG Carbines. Or observations on loose S.G. stocks****

    Include Sling Well markings-Numbers/letters along with stock makers markings.
    Stock type: Hi-wood I cut- Type 1, Oval High wood- Type II, or Oval Low wood- Type III.
    Serial number range.


    All reports greatly Appreciated,

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Post your findings here: SG Carbine stock markings-Serials
    1-S.G. Letter and Number Sling Well observations.
    2-Stock Type (I, II, III)
    3-Stock Maker's Letter Markings
    4-Serial# if known
    Its OK to post observations of loose S.G. Stocks
    I've added 4 more Thanks to Marcus.

    Requesting any one with a S.G. to reply.
    Observations from loose S.G. stocks gladly accepted.

    Thanks All,
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    SG Stock

    Type II
    Trimble
    TN

    SG
    Ordnance bomb on left side of sling cut.
    Stock is on a AA rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lancerdg View Post
    SG Stock
    Type II
    Trimble
    TN

    SG
    Ordnance bomb on left side of sling cut.
    Stock is on a AA rebuild.
    Lancerdg,

    Is that stock stamped SG in the Sling Well along with the Ordnance bomb?
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    SG

    Yes, the SG is in the sling cutout.
    I've been trying to post a picture for an hour with no luck. Followed the tutorial exactly.

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    Thx Lancerdg and Hunterman.
    Every bit helps.
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