Ammo Shortage ? Primers ? See Video's

[emmagee1917]

Years ago I got out of black powder and into machine guns . I had a can of 3F or 4F left over and loaded up some .45 230 grain ball and ran it through one of my Thompsons . Worked fine .
Chris

[browningautorifle]

Worked fine

Let's see, if it had a Cutts you'd have a grey wall in front of you when firing and there MUST have been a nice flash?

[ssgross]

well, I just checked gunbroker out of curiosity and smokeless, imr4895,4064,varget, etc, all seem to be going $100+ per pound. ughhh. I did my job building stock over years before all this - enough to last several years, but like many similar folks I'm now stressing over how long I can still shoot and at what level of rationing. I'm pessimistic that this is going to last at least 3 years or so.
grafs has plenty of musket caps and black powder in stock.
Here is the statements from Hodgdon. I just read too that Hodgdon acquired all of Western powders smokeless brands (e.g. accurate) back in Oct. 2020.
https://hodgdon.com/powder-shortage-statement/
If 80% of their business is still reloaders, and Hodgdon owns just about all the US brands, who is the main suppliers for the ammo factories? The US government?

[browningautorifle]

all seem to be going $100+ per pound

Twice what it is here...

[emmagee1917]

I have , like , 15,000 small pistol primers I don't need and a need for small rifle primers and CFE223 powder . Myself and others thought about opening a barter thread in other forums to help each other out .
Turns out Hazmat is not just a fee we pay as a service . WE , the shipper , must complete a course and be licensed then use those forms to register ourselves with the shipping company so they will pick the packages up from us . Failure to do this is a $250K fine per offence . If you order from someone on line and it comes in without a Hazmat sticker , you now know that that person isn't licensed . You are not required to report him , but using him again could lead you into trouble and fines greater than 85K . Is it worth it ?

[browningautorifle]

Hazmat is not just a fee we pay as a service

Interesting point, we don't have to do that. I can ship primers using an agency that has dangerous good cert...like Loomis or Canpar for instance. I don't remember if I have to disclose the presence of flammables or explosive content... Price is reasonable and shipping is much faster than mail.

[emmagee1917]

If you are required to slap a Hazmat sticker on it , they'll have to know .
I am not aware of such a service here in the US , i.e. , a private company with outlets who's Hazmat approved to receive primers and powder , pack them , then hand them off to a shipper . I don't think there is , but I don't know everything , I just sometimes think I do .

[ssgross]

Looks like things are easing? Grafs actually has some rifle and pistol powder in stock...and only Alliant and Vhitavouri, but it's a step in the right direction. Local cabelas has had plenty 223 on the shelf for a while now. I'm hoping rifle powders will be the first to recover...been too long since I've seen everybody's favorites, IMR{4895,4064} or Varget on the shelves anywhere.

[usabaker]

Looks like things are easing?

Yup!.. I was finally able to get Hodgdon 4350 as well as Shooters SW4350. Seem to stick around a while as well. Prior it would be gone as soon as the email alert showed up.