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    Any ideas on this backpack frame?

    Sorry for the double forum post. I posted this in the General first because I'm a nOOb.
    The shelf folds up. Two long straps from the top of the frame to the shelf. Steel thin bar for the 'X'. Shoulder straps are not wide. Looks to me like the WW1 OD color. I even looked to see if it was Boy Scout or Lineman. My best guess right now is some specialty ammo box carrier. No markings I can find. Found it at an estate sale with an M1icon belt scabbard. Never saw one of those until I bought one, lol. Pics of both attached.
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    I found this picture on Bing under Vintage Army Packboards. It was listed as a Vintage Backpack Frame, Germanicon Army. However it is posted in itsy by some modern artifact decor. Also the tag on the support frame suggests it is a commercial product not military.
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    Thanks! that is definitely it. I managed to find the Etsy account and view the other pictures. Finally got a good shot of the label. Attached. I looked up the name, which is just that, a name so probably the original assignee of the pack on Etsy. The interesting part was under it. Lehrbtl. Found this.
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    So it looks like a munitions frame for a Germanicon outfit.

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    I think that may be an owner's label given that the surname is first. Also the "Lehrbattalion(?) reference. No idea what "HOS III" is though.

    Definitely a better idea than the "magic marker" scrawls you see on a lot of kit here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    may be an owner's label given that the surname is first
    Manufacturer label...

    Lehrbattalion means Training battalion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Manufacturer label...

    Lehrbattalion means Training battalion.
    That's what I said. I don't need a translation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Also the "Lehrbattalion(?) reference.
    ????? Seems so.
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    That label is not on mine. It was from the Etsy ad of an identical piece. I take it as the owner as Erich Gohner is a person's name and not a concern/firm. Plus, a manufacturer's label would not have the battalion information on it. Mine does not have any label or stamp on it that I can find. Cool piece. Now I need to find a reenactor that's part of a mortar group that needs one, lol. Could have also been the guy schlepping the ammo for an MG42. I need to go dig through some pic archives to see if I can catch a glimpse of one in action.
    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignatious View Post
    That label is not on mine. It was from the Etsy ad of an identical piece. I take it as the owner as Erich Gohner is a person's name and not a concern/firm. Plus, a manufacturer's label would not have the battalion information on it. Mine does not have any label or stamp on it that I can find. Cool piece. Now I need to find a reenactor that's part of a mortar group that needs one, lol. Could have also been the guy schlepping the ammo for an MG42. I need to go dig through some pic archives to see if I can catch a glimpse of one in action.
    Thanks guys!
    Yes, in Germanyicon (Austriaicon?) it seems you get your own labels made, or more likely the supply/stores system simply makes them up for you?

    Wouldn't prevent theft, but if the supply of labels was limited so that in-service thieves didn't have any extras to stick on what they might steal, it would certainly be a disincentive.

    And when the kit is turned in, the labels come off and it's ready for the next issue with no magic marker scrawls in odd places. And I'd bet there is ONE place on each item that the label is to be put.

    Attention to detail...a custom worth emulating.
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