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    M14 Clone for Sale Help

    My son found a M1Aicon at a gun store today and is asking me if itS worth buying. Not knowing anything about these I thought I see if y'all might offer an opinion. These are all the pictures he took.

    Thank in advance
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    he's also looking at a Federal Ordnance Inc.

    Model: M14A 14 Clone as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve762 View Post
    Need more pics to give an accurate evaluation. What is the asking price?
    Unfortunately, he left the shop before calling me. It is $1300.00. I thought is was a bit high at that price, but I know nothing about these. Hes also looking at a Federal Ordnance Inc. Model: M14A that is in much better condition with the correct flash hider (that you can't put on your rife in California)

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    In California, you would have a hard time finding that rifle at or below $1,300.

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    The lock bar sight is original to the SA Inc. receiver. This was done because of the T105e sight would move under recoil and the lock bar would solve this issue. I sold 3 consecutive M1Aicon's in the 1980's with this feature. Dealer price in the 80's was $535.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve762 View Post
    Suggest you do research on Federal Ordnance products before buying one.
    Hi Steve, I have been and did find some interesting history. "Federal Ordnance began production of its M14icon type rifles by 1984 and ended around 1992. About 1992 Federal Ordnance, Inc. changed to Bricklee then shut down. The business was revived twice more under different names before finally withering on the vine. According to a very reliable source, Federal Ordnance used the same Spanish company as National Ordnance, at least initially, to supply the raw receiver castings. Karl Maunz supplied some receiver castings in 1987 to Federal Ordnance. Federal Ordnance M14 type rifle serial number 22XX was inspected in the factory on February 26, 1987. Likewise, rifle serial number 677X was inspected at the factory on November 17, 1989. Federal Ordnance receivers machined while Jack Karnes was on board were of good quality. ... Federal Ordnance built two types of M14 rifles, one with USGI parts and one with Chinese parts. USGI parts were used extensively in Federal Ordnance rifles through at least S/N 8877. Through at least serial number 394X the USGI parts were taken off USGI M14 rifles imported from Israel. By serial number 205XX, if not earlier, Chinese and Taiwanese reproduction parts were used to assemble its rifles. For example, Federal Ordnance M14SA serial number 502XX was assembled at the factory on September 13, 1991, with a Chinese manufacture bolt, operating rod, trigger group and barrel. Federal Ordnance sold complete rifles as well as stripped receivers."

    Source: https://gunhub.com/m14/24866-history...le-owners.html

    However, the one that my son is looking at conflicts with that information because most of the parts are USGI, here is the information my son gave me.

    Receiver Reads:

    U.S. RIFLE
    7.62 MM M14
    FED. ORD. INC.
    SO. EL MONTE, CA.

    5325

    The 5325 is the serial number. There is a circle with the letter F stamped into the receiver on the left soft at the front.

    Bolt: 7790186 / 66118 - SS
    Op Rod: 7267064 SA
    Barrel: SA F7790190 2 61 A229A
    Op Rod: 7267064 SA
    Trigger Group: 7267030 66118
    Hammer: 5546008-HR-N
    Safety has an F stamp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    In California, you would have a hard time finding that rifle at or below $1,300.
    That what I figured, I told him to buy both! he can see which he likes better and then give the other one to his Dad (me) LOL

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    The 74XXX Springfield Armory rifle most likely has GI issue parts. That's the one I would buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed skeels View Post
    The 74XXX Springfield Armory rifle most likely has GI issue parts. That's the one I would buy.
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    Some SA Inc. had SA Inc. cast trigger housings but most parts were GI
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    Back in the day a friend of mine had one with non U.S. parts except for the stock and barrel . He installed all U.S. parts and it ram very well !!!

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