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    Donor NPM Flip Sight

    I Sold One of my NPM M1icon Carbine's to a Good Friend who is Ret. Military and what he Offered and Paid for it after seeing all the Parts so I wouldn't list it and since it had a terrible Fake Flip Sight on it which I told him it was Not a Original one. I thought I would purchase a New Fake Donor NPM Flip Sight which I told him I would do before he gave payment. I bought it from that Seller who lists them as USGI Military I think y'all know who they are. I also thought I would share a couple of Magnified Pictures of it.
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    Frank,
    Did I hear you were selling Humped Parts
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    Frank,
    Did I hear you were selling Humped Parts
    Yeah, but I gave him fair Warning...haha! I know I have a Original one but during the move I misplaced it. I'm sure it will show up and I'll send it to him as soon as it does.

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    That one is very obviously humped. But I guess its better than no sight at all.
    When they tell you to behave, they always forget to specify whether to behave well or badly!

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    TN

    is a real one on epay now--that is rare! is a TN

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtmr View Post
    is a real one on epay now--that is rare! is a TN
    MR,
    Do you mean item # 324493500067 ??
    With the up side down S ??

    As in this one...



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    Like my original, the TN letters are very thin. They almost look like they were cut with a thin scribe. The repops almost always are thick by comparison.
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    Well, that flip sight just got a free promotional boost, not that it needed it. Anywho, back to the topic; assuming this "guy" you know is actually going to install said fake sight on his carbine, thus inviting the possibility of damaging the dovetail, which can happen on removal or installation, my question would be why take the risk for a fake only to turn right around and take the same risk yet again when the alleged real one arrives? Now, I am assuming he will install it, but if not why even bother with a fake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deldriver View Post
    Well, that flip sight just got a free promotional boost, not that it needed it.
    Del,
    I thought MR was playing with us / me. It wouldn't be the 1st time he's messed with me. And sometimes his messages are hard to understand and I've got to re-contact him to verify gray areas. His own Wife will tell you he can't explain Crap.

    I don't own a NPM that has a Flip on it.
    I added the pictures so guys like JimB and others could call it real or repro.
    I'd looked this one over because I don't see many TN sights. After seeing it what seemed odd to me was what looked to be a replaced leaf spring. The pin appeared to be roughly re-staked and the upside down S.

    I don't recall the order I looked the sellers Flip sights over...

    Inland Flip also has a upside down S and shows heavy bash marks on both sides of the base but with no finish loss in those areas. It appeared to me as being re-finished after the Bashing and then some finish wear on the bottom edges and some finish loss on the tall leaf from rotating. So likely used after being re-finished ? Maybe a ill fitting repro ?

    Wra Flip has pin staking that seemed off to me compared to my examples. Sq S looked ok, so gave thought that maybe it was a Flip used by another maker with their type staking.

    With at times up to 50 Flip sights up for auction at any given time and 95+% of those being Repro but offered up as Original. Odds are against you and bad purchases will happen. Some of those real ones will slip by also. It's cold out there....

    As far as a Free promotional boost, Here's a item that needs some additional attention because at least 2 Bidders don't know better:

    Blued WW2 Original USGI Winchester W Type 2 .30 M1icon Carbine Barrel Band EXC.-MINT

    eBay item number:363299230291

    Currently @ $86.50


    "We have one original WW2 Type 2 USGI M1 .30 Carbine Front Barrel Band that was made by Winchester and is in Exc. to MINT Condition. Vintage Winchester Barrel Bands in this condition are quite RARE."



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    I have an NPM carbine with original flip sight, and has a square font S, and no TN. Here are the best pics I have.





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