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    Home grown SMGs in Perth?

    Here's a short vid of something taken off the Perth streets. These are interesting, wouldn't mind wringing one out.

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    Bloody hell Jim, it's got one hell of a rate of fire!

    A basic point and spray SMG is just too easy to make by a good engineer with a half decent machine shop at his disposal...

    This homemade SMG is also worryingly easy to hide, I wonder if they ever got to the bottom of it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    it's got one hell of a rate of fire!
    Ingram, Mini Uzi, S&W 76...like that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    ... one hell of a rate of fire...
    Lots of mass in the bolt made the M3A1 shoot slowly enough to be eminently manageable. Grease gun is far and away one of my favorites. Another approach was to use a rate reduction mechanism the clever Czechs put on the vz-61 Skorpion. Got to teach it in a OPFOR weapons familiarization class. Often fantasized about ways to divert government property every range day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old tanker View Post
    Lots of mass in the bolt made the M3A1 shoot slowly enough to be eminently manageable
    I had one years ago and enjoyed it immensely. I had ten mags and could go through them all in about 15 minutes...when I got it there were no bolt springs so I have to try making some. I found the inner recoil springs from the FN butt fit so I cut them just long enough and used them. Let's just say they were a bit stouter than the originals and I had to use a screwdriver blade to cock the bolt. When I touched off, all ten empties were in the air at once. I went and had new springs wound, even though that was kind of neat.
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    The most important part of an SMG is the magazine. All else falls into place if the magazine works reliably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    The most important part of an SMG is the magazine.
    Agreed, if you're building, you seek mags you can get lots of and that work. If the SMG mag packs it in, you have to be a magician to sort them out sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Agreed, if you're building, you seek mags you can get lots of and that work. If the SMG mag packs it in, you have to be a magician to sort them out sometimes.
    Good reason for Ingraham, among others, to have made good use of the tons of readily available surplus Sten, Uzi and grease gun mags in their postwar designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old tanker View Post
    Good reason for Ingraham, among others, to have made good use of the tons of readily available surplus Sten, Uzi and grease gun mags in their postwar designs.
    Sten mag was a copy of the Lanchester which was in production, which was a copy of the WWI Bergman MP18, more or less. The MP38/40 basically used the later improved Bergman MP28/updated magazine as it was in production. IIRC. Millions of magazines made and available. Etc.

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