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    Depends on the rifle. Since this is an M1icon carbine thread, I will stay with that rifle. The manufacturer recommended lube for the M1 Garand was Lubriplate. I use it on my M1 Garand. Since the Garand and M1 carbine have similar operating systems and were manufactured in the same era, I figured I would also use it in my M1 carbines. I clean and lube each rifle every time I return from a shooting session. The Garand and both carbines function perfectly with the Lubriplate. It should be noted that many people do not like Lubriplate and do not recommend it. I do not use it in any of my other firearms. Hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    It should be noted that many people do not like Lubriplate and do not recommend it.
    I've not heard that but my guess is they are not applying it correctly and then immediately blame any issues on the grease. I see people all the time with gobs of grease rather than a thin transparent coat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    my guess is they are not applying it correctly and then immediately blame any issues on the grease
    Maybe (?) Oiling first, then wondering why Grease wont stay in place ?

    I prefer to Grease where needed, then Oil where needed.

    Long term storage for me is a different animal.

    Not directing this at anyone in particular. But Ordnance provided a Oiler in the stock. No Grease gun attached to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Maybe (?) Oiling first, then wondering why Grease wont stay in place ?

    I prefer to Grease where needed, then Oil where needed.

    Long term storage for me is a different animal.

    Not directing this at anyone in particular. But Ordnance provided a Oiler in the stock. No Grease gun attached to it.
    Good point!

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    [QUOTE=usabaker;496277]I've not heard that but my guess is they are not applying it correctly and then immediately blame any issues on the grease. I see people all the time with gobs of grease rather than a thin transparent coat.[/QUOTE

    When I was researching the correct lube for the Garandicon, I came across several articles and postings claiming Lubriplate was an inferior grease. I just figured if Springfield Armory recommended it for the gun they built, it was good enough for me since I know nothing about grease other than it makes a real mess!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    I know nothing about grease other than it makes a real mess!
    you should not "see" the grease, if you see it, it's much too thick. If you apply it with an acid brush it just takes a thin layer; should be transparent. Really, as Painter777 says, unless the firearms call out for in 'everyday normal' use there is no need for grease. If you live in a beach community like me in San Diego, I use grease because 1. I don't always shoot the same rifles so I want more protection on some part. 2. Because I live near saltwater, and 3. I don't take the rifles that I use grease on in the fields or in the snow.

    The exception to that is the locking lugs on my bolts regardless if it's a MILSRUP Mauser a Modern Bargara; the lugs are always greased with EWG.
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    I make my own lub. I use a 50/50 mixture of automatic transmission fluid and Marvels Miracle Oil. Both usual comes in a one quart can or bottle. I mix them in a one gallon can/bottle. I have used this mixture for years in my match guns. Great stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Maybe (?) Oiling first, then wondering why Grease wont stay in place ?

    I prefer to Grease where needed, then Oil where needed.

    Long term storage for me is a different animal.

    Not directing this at anyone in particular. But Ordnance provided a Oiler in the stock. No Grease gun attached to it.
    Hola Carlito,

    What do you grease and what do you oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fjruple View Post
    I make my own lub. I use a 50/50 mixture of automatic transmission fluid and Marvels Miracle Oil. Both usual comes in a one quart can or bottle. I mix them in a one gallon can/bottle. I have used this mixture for years in my match guns. Great stuff!
    Hello Fjruple
    What do you use to clean first?
    How long last your mixture?
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    for cleaning after shooting, I use Hoppes #9. For a preservative oil I use Army PL-S general purpose weapons oil light. An equivalent commercial oil would be 3 in 1 oil. this is for rubbing into the metal with a rag or patch. For lubricating oil I use the Army teflon oil. it comes in a green squirt bottle and after shaking it has a white color. That is the teflon mixed with the oil. a few years ago Sarco sold quart cans of this stuff Germanicon made so I have enough for 5 lifetimes. This lubricant was developed for the M-16 rifle and works well. For grease, I use almost anything. Lubriplate is good any old axle grease is fine. Grease is oil that stays where it is placed. I see no useful purpose in putting expensive lubricants on firearms when they are cleaned and maintained so often. I would also go out on a limb and say that the rifle doesn't know or care what type of oil or grease you use. Going further out on that limb, I would not use WD 40 on any firearm I valued. I did use it for years when I had one shotgun and one rifle. It will be better than nothing at all, but as a genuine lubricant it falls short. I do use it as a sliding lubricant on old Pinball machines and it is good for that. By design it is a preservative coating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveHH View Post
    for cleaning after shooting, I use Hoppes #9. For a preservative oil I use Army PL-S general purpose weapons oil light. An equivalent commercial oil would be 3 in 1 oil. this is for rubbing into the metal with a rag or patch. For lubricating oil I use the Army teflon oil. it comes in a green squirt bottle and after shaking it has a white color. That is the teflon mixed with the oil. a few years ago Sarco sold quart cans of this stuff Germanicon made so I have enough for 5 lifetimes. This lubricant was developed for the M-16 rifle and works well. For grease, I use almost anything. Lubriplate is good any old axle grease is fine. Grease is oil that stays where it is placed. I see no useful purpose in putting expensive lubricants on firearms when they are cleaned and maintained so often. I would also go out on a limb and say that the rifle doesn't know or care what type of oil or grease you use. Going further out on that limb, I would not use WD 40 on any firearm I valued. I did use it for years when I had one shotgun and one rifle. It will be better than nothing at all, but as a genuine lubricant it falls short. I do use it as a sliding lubricant on old Pinball machines and it is good for that. By design it is a preservative coating.
    Hello Dave
    Thank you for share.
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