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    Quote Originally Posted by W5USMC View Post
    Not possible that it would mar or scratch the face of the bolt because the hold open follower does not come in contact with the face of the bolt. It comes in contact with the same bottom ramp portion of the bolt that pushes rounds out of the mag and into the chamber.
    Sorry, I should have been more specific. Marr or scratch the bottom ramp lip or rim on the face of the bolt.i can only go by what I've read, because I refuse to use them since you have to practically rip the magazine out letting the bolt slam home. That's what I meant by it's not a true hold open. I'm sure it has its uses to some, but not to me
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    It was about mid 50's that Springfield Armory started to Parkerizing magazines. While they did many thousands of them it was a drop in the bucket. All to try and reclaim new unused magazines that had started to rust in their original packages. This is most likely when they replaced any bad followers with new production ones and those being the cut off ones for the M2 magazines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    I refuse to use them since you have to practically rip the magazine out letting the bolt slam home
    Couldn't you just lock the slide back, change magazines, and then release the slide? It's been awhile since I've used a "hold open" mag - but think that's how I did it. - Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    Couldn't you just lock the slide back, change magazines, and then release the slide? It's been awhile since I've used a "hold open" mag - but think that's how I did it. - Bob
    I could do that but my slide stop barely holds as it is because my carbine is thoroughly used ha ha. So I just wait for the click and wait 20 seconds and drop the magazine and then insert another one, and pull back the slide, letting it go without using the slide stop hardly ever. I meant to add that the only time I use my slide stop is when I need to access the bolt face or the chamber for a quick cleaning in between my cleanings where I completely break the rifle down. Is there a cleaning insert that I have just not found similar to the insert for the garand that uses the force of the bolt to hold itself in place while you clean the bore and chamber?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    It was about mid 50's that Springfield Armory started to Parkerizing magazines.
    Hi Brucov,
    These were packed. wrapped, taped in the green wrap. No markings on it except the #50 and price tag hand written.
    Fellow Member CarbineKid recently won a 20 pack on GB wrapped the same way, his were blued.
    I'd have to find his post, but I don't believe any of his had hold opens.
    They were / are nice mags he received. I don't know what they cost.
    If I find the picture I'll copy and post it here of the wrap, if he's Ok with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    Is there a cleaning insert that I have just not found similar to the insert for the garand that uses the force of the bolt to hold itself in place while you clean the bore and chamber?
    I need to get one of those for my Garandicon - that thing scares me! I haven't seen one for a carbine - maybe since they don't bite as hard. - Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by jond41403 View Post
    Is there a cleaning insert
    Cut off a piece of Wood Dowel rod. Fit between Op Slides Cam and right rear of hand guard.
    I use Carpenters lead pencils..... cause their all over the house.

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    Have you tried turning your Stop Pin around 180 ?
    Friction Spring about had it ?
    If worn out Stop Pin Ramp, I recall Harlan slightly drilling the hole on one of his a bit deeper.

    On one of our shooters the bottom of the Stop Pin had a worn edge. That I lightly filed flat. It's held up for quite a while now.

    Either way....... I never trust the Locked Pins. A Wood Dowel / Carpenters pencil hasn't failed me yet.

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    Thanks for the tip Charlie, no I have not turned my slide stop pin 180 but I will try that to see if it helps .I'm thinking the cut out needs reshaping a little bit. There's not much left on the forward side which the PIN holds against. It's almost ramp like, like the back end of the cutout is if that makes sense. I've always been afraid to tamper with it myself though since it's a 78-year-old carbine and we all know once you take it off, there ain't no putting it back ha ha. I've never thought of The pencil trick but that's exactly what I'm going to do from here on out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    I need to get one of those for my Garandicon - that thing scares me! I haven't seen one for a carbine - maybe since they don't bite as hard. - Bob
    Those inserts are great Bob and awfully convenient when cleaning your bore. I decided to invest in one after I accidentally hit the follower with my cleaning rod releasing the bolt a couple times. It's also great for when you're cleaning your chamber, it won't let all the dirt and grime drip down into the action if you're just wanting to do a basic cleaning without breaking down the rifle. My HRA has such a tight lock up, I only break my rifle down once a year or every thousand rounds or so for a detailed cleaning but that insert is wonderful for just quick basic cleaning.
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