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    HELP!

    I have been researching the early Colt M1911A1's and I have found that every one I ran across has the serial number stamped under the firing pin stop on the slide that matches the serial number on the frame. However, I did run across one early Colt that had no serial number stamped under the slide stop. Did Colt manufacture some slides without stamping the serial number on the slide?
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    Would that be a replacement spare slide?
    Regards, Jim

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    Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Would that be a replacement spare slide?
    I don't believe so Jim, and thanks for responding. The slide has all the required markings except for the serial #. I wish I could show you a photo of the slide so you could better understand my perplexity. If you post me your email address (as long as it's not Yahoo) I'll send you some photos.
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    Check your PMs and I'll post the pics here...

    Replacement slides would have all markings except the serial number I think...anyway, we'll see.
    Regards, Jim

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    Here's pics of the slide for you guys...replacement slide?
    Regards, Jim

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    Thanks again Jim; your assistance is greatly appreciated.
    For those looking at the slide, it was on a frame serial# 712611, shipped to Springfield Armory on 5/21/1938.
    Thanks for looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacier-Blue View Post
    Thanks again Jim; your assistance is greatly appreciated.
    For those looking at the slide, it was on a frame serial# 712611, shipped to Springfield Armory on 5/21/1938.
    Thanks for looking.
    Your 1938 Colt would have been shipped with its matching numbered slide. Colt stamped the gun's serial on the slide until sometime just before ser# 1,140,000. The gun would have been blued and the slide you show is parkerized. Is the frame parkerized as well? The slide has been replaced at sometime and you may have a typical arsenal refurbished pistol.

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    Thanks for the info John. You may be right. How can you tell if the slide/frame has been parkerized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glacier-Blue View Post
    How can you tell if the slide/frame has been parkerized?
    Send me some pics of the whole pistol and I'll post them. The slide is clearly parkerized...
    Regards, Jim

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    Well I can't say it hasn't been interesting, this trip I've taken to learn more about my Colt M1911A1 pistol. Jim Cutting is right, the slide is a 1944 variation replacement slide that has been parkerized (still don't know how to tell a parkerized slide from a non-parkerized slide). Here are the clues I've learned from Jim and other people:
    1.The pistol had been parkerized.
    2.The slide has a dark heat treatment line along the forward half.
    3.The texture of the finish is not original.
    4.The Colt's big belly is reflective of Type 9 in book illustrations, and this is found on other 1944 pistols.
    5.The front sight is a Type 3 -- the original oval shape was modified to one with a straight serrated slope to the rear; this began in 1943.
    So while the frame is a 1938 frame, the slide is most likely a 1944 replacement slide.
    Thanks to all who have been on this journey with me. It was interesting!

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