Midway carbines

[tenOC]

What W on the left side of the trigger housing? I don't see a right hand side of the housing posted.

[Ben Cartwright]

What W on the left side of the trigger housing? I don't see a right hand side of the housing posted.

Sorry I was looking at the hammer[ I see a "W" at the back of the trigger housing on the right hand side COLOR="black"]

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[/COLOR]Here is the right hand side



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[jimb16]

Looks like Winchester to me.

[Ben Cartwright]

Looks like Winchester to me.

But the receiver under the sight has Quality H.M.C. , on my two Winchesters I can see Winchester on that spot

[jond41403]

But the receiver under the sight has Quality H.M.C. , on my two Winchesters I can see Winchester on that spot

I believe he is talking about the trigger housing

[Ben Cartwright]

I believe he is talking about the trigger housing

Oh, I agree, the trigger housing is Winchester.

[eb in oregon]

But the receiver under the sight has Quality H.M.C. , on my two Winchesters I can see Winchester on that spot

All M1 Carbines produced by the various manufacturers of carbines often had parts from various suppliers at different times. Even those manufacturers that produced most of the parts in house as the press of war and production dictated that sometimes in house parts weren't available so parts were procured from other sources. It isn't unusual to find any carbine produced to have another company's barrel or other parts that never had those parts replaced. The issue that it takes time and effort to tool up and produce every part was the primary reason so many different company's were in the M1 Carbine program. The vast majority of suppliers produced some parts, not all parts.

[tenOC]

His Quality would not have had a Winchester group, nor trigger housing from Winchester. What you've posted isn't the accurate way to say it and will lead to more rumors passed by uninformed people.
Most makers had parts subcontracted by companies who coded them for use for the specific makers. For instance you will see codes on Quality Carbines like Q-NL, NL-Q, Q-TX, DA-Q, J-Q, Q-J, Q, Q-GE, GE-Q, etc.. NOTE THE Q. Barrels installed on receivers from a different maker will have the proof mark matching the producer of the receiver who assembled it. In the case of Quality the proof P has a very short stem, which is easily IDed. You can't just have any parts installed on a Carbine and it be corrrect nor original.
My early quality has a Winchester barrel with Quality proof P, while Winchester never used the P. So any Winchester barrel on a Quality without one is not correct.

[Ben Cartwright]

His Quality would not have had a Winchester group, nor trigger housing from Winchester. What you've posted isn't the accurate way to say it and will lead to more rumors passed by uninformed people.
Most makers had parts subcontracted by companies who coded them for use for the specific makers. For instance you will see codes on Quality Carbines like Q-NL, NL-Q, Q-TX, DA-Q, J-Q, Q-J, Q, Q-GE, GE-Q, etc.. NOTE THE Q. Barrels installed on receivers from a different maker will have the proof mark matching the producer of the receiver who assembled it. In the case of Quality the proof P has a very short stem, which is easily IDed. You can't just have any parts installed on a Carbine and it be corrrect nor original.
My early quality has a Winchester barrel with Quality proof P, while Winchester never used the P. So any Winchester barrel on a Quality without one is not correct.

The barrel on my Quality has "Rock-ola" but it also has a "P" proof mark that appears to be about 1/8" high. The trigger group only has "W"'s so would that be from some sub-contractor who coded it for Winchester but sent it to Quality?

[eb in oregon]

You can't just have any parts installed on a Carbine and it be corrrect nor original.

Essentially that is the thought process of an "originalist" who refuses to accept anything other than what might have (I emphasize might as all records are not available these days concerning the entire production of the M1 Carbine during wartime needs) come directly from any factory which includes carbines that have gone thru the system of repair and refurbishment. I'm not so picky.