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    Midway carbines

    Anyone here put in for or bought one of the midwayusa carbines ?
    Just wondering about the price and condition, haven't heard much about them lately.
    Have they even started selling them yet ?
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    Check them out here. They have not went to live sell yet.....2 more days and they can be purchased.

    Military Surplus Guns - MidwayUSA

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    Their script describing the Carbines is less than truthful. No Carbines with type I sight. Many with bayonet lug and rotary safety that don't match the 'as manufactured' description.

    You can get one with an early barrel band and an IMPORT STAMPED barrel.

    Wait it out. Get one with no import stamp from Gunbroker or similar.

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    I for one find it exciting that there are apparently still pallets of WWII US small arms waiting to be "discovered", imported, and sold. I also like that they have them separated by manufacturer. Price is probably steep considering the above mentioned import marks, and potential for lots of post war features, but, 20 years from now, you'll probably kick yourself for missing the chance. I'll be buying one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champ0608 View Post
    I for one find it exciting that there are apparently still pallets of WWII US small arms waiting to be "discovered", imported, and sold. I also like that they have them separated by manufacturer. Price is probably steep considering the above mentioned import marks, and potential for lots of post war features, but, 20 years from now, you'll probably kick yourself for missing the chance. I'll be buying one.
    I would also think that some of, if not all of these carbines were used in combat during WW-2 while most of the ones sold in the US prob. never left this country and were used for training etc, "not meaning the family bring backs of course".
    If you could choose a carbine that was prob. used by our troops in combat during WW-2 but had a import mark on it, or one that had no import marking but never left the US, which would it be ?.....Just thinking.

    BTW: tenOC, Some adj. sights were installed in the field near the end of WW-2, from what I have read the adj. sight was the 1st mod.
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    I just don't see the "Probably used in combat" deal. So it was abused, dropped, covered with dirt or sand, whatever. That makes it a better carbine? My late father-in-law was a Red Ball Express Officer in WW2. He was issued a new carbine and a day later someone stole it out of his truck. Exciting isn't it? To me it is just another piece of gear. Everyone gets a weapon.

    I'd rather have an almost new stateside weapon straight out of the company T.O.E. issued to an Army dentist who didn't like shooting it much.

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    In 20 years, if we're still allowed t have these, there will be plenty of Carbines sold out of long time collections in original config of people in my age bracket.

    Quote Originally Posted by lboos View Post
    I would also think that some of, if not all of these carbines were used in combat during WW-2 while most of the ones sold in the US prob. never left this country and were used for training etc, "not meaning the family bring backs of course".
    If you could choose a carbine that was prob. used by our troops in combat during WW-2 but had a import mark on it, or one that had no import marking but never left the US, which would it be ?.....Just thinking.
    Blue Sky. Ask the world that about Blue Sky marked Carbines. At the same price, I'll take the ones that never left. Import marked ones fill a role, but not priced at full retail with parts changed.

    BTW: tenOC, Some adj. sights were installed in the field near the end of WW-2, from what I have read the adj. sight was the 1st mod.
    Are you being serious right now? Midway's statement is that they are still just as they left the factory. Not at all true by what the pics show.
    You're also talking about an exception. Reality is the rule. Armorers replaced these and staked the receivers for the adjustable sight.
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    Don't forget to read Midway's updates on condition - made on 5/19/21. - Bob

    https://www.midwayusa.com/us-militar...us-m1-carbines
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    Yeah, we've been over that on other sites. This discussion is new to this site but not the others. The description doesn't say that update.
    Search M1icon Carbine on their sight, find the MILITARY SURPLUS link and select a Carbine. This is the blurb attached:

    The backstory:

    After years of effort, our Supplier has been successful in securing a large lot of U.S. made M1 Carbines and MidwayUSA has purchased all of them! These M1 Carbines have not been arsenal refurbished. Per our supplier, these guns are believed to have come directly from use in the European theatre of WWII, eventually making their way to the Italianicon Armed forces. From there they went to the Carabinieri – the Italian National Police - and have been in storage since the early 1950s. There are no records indicating how the Italian Armed Forces came into possession of these WWII M1 Carbines.

    These guns are a piece of history and prime examples of wartime production. They are still ‘as assembled’ during the rapid mass production of WWII. These guns have not been reworked at an arsenal nor refinished at any point. As the US spooled up its wartime production of military guns, it was necessary for multiple manufacturers to work together to complete production of a single working M1 Carbine. Not all receiver manufacturers made barrels and many used barrels from multiple sources. The barrels are appropriate to the receiver as they were manufactured. There are variations among these guns, including sights, safeties, gas blocks, etc. Variations were common during the years these guns were manufactured. Small parts may have been replaced during the war due to normal field use and maintenance. In service during the war, these M1 Carbines were then placed in storage for almost 70 years by the Italian government.
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    [QUOTE=tenOC;500317]In 20 years, if we're still allowed t have these, there will be plenty of Carbines sold out of long time collections in original config of people in my age bracket.

    tinOC,
    I don't think there are any carbines today in original configuration, only corrected ones.

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