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    Marks of Mystery #1

    I'm trying to identify some markings found on the receiver ring and wrist of a 1943 Savage No.4 Mk I*. The mark is somewhat similar to the 5-pointed star-with-a-squiggle (see #1, below) identified in Hoffman & Schott's "Handbook of Military Rifle Marks 1866-1950", pg.33), as INDONESIA - but it's not the same - it's an "M" within a five-pointed star.

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    If you look at it the 'other way up' could it possibly be a W in the star ?
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    The second mark upside down would be a common Weedon inspection mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    If you look at it the 'other way up' could it possibly be a W in the star ?
    Thank you for your note. In theory, while all things are possible, in reality, some are less likely than others. I understand that there are some who will argue that the five-pointed star was routinely turned upside down (point down) and that the "M" is, in fact, a "W". Occam's Razor: the simplest answer usually prevails. My money is on the "M". Additionally, the letter has some serifs - embellishments - that to my jaundiced eyes, belong on the foot.

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    The problem is, almost 100 years after the fact, we don't have nearly enough archive documents to answer the thousand-and-one questions about minutia that collectors live for. Of course, that lack of documents didn't stop theologians arguing about the number of angels atop the head of a pin - and I really don't want to head down that path. I'm a documents guy.

    I could be wrong. It would not be the first time. Just ask my wife.

    Again, thank you for your note. I always look forward to your thoughtful comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbox View Post
    The second mark upside down would be a common Weedon inspection mark.
    Thank you for your note. Could you point me to a book or website or other collection of Weedon marks? I'm a documents kind-of-guy. I'm not finding that mark in any of my sources. (Might be time for new glasses, anyway.)

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