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    Looks much better Mr. Humble, though I feel a modern scope on a vintage rifle is like putting slicks on mag rims on a Bentley. Sorry!
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    Had another go with 4350 and 4064 and 4 different bullets. The 4064/ Barnes 168 TSX did the best (upper right)



    Then I cleaned it and borescoped it. After paying $350.00 to have it rebored/rerifled this was a bad surprise !







    Waiting to hear from those who did the work.

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    Bentleys come with mag wheel now.
    Putting some old dim, crappy scope on a rifle just to be PC is silly.
    Besides that Leupold is 40 odd years old.

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    I have some scopes here made before WWI that are as bright as a Weaver made 30 years ago, but to each his own.
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    And here's the final word:

    Just a heads up should any of you contemplate having a barrel rebored/rerifled.
    I spent $350 with OregonGunsmithing to have my 280 Ross rifle rebored to .308 (the 280 case necked up)
    The photos below show what I got back.
    When I raised my concerns I was told:

    Old steel rifle barrels are pourus.
    Our site has a disclaimer denying any liability.

    Having had 10 plus rifles rebored by others w/o such issues, I'd urge caution.






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    I’m really quite surprised anyone would attempt to rebore between these two calibers. That’s not a lot of steel to remove to get cleaned up.

    Do you have experience with the other firms on a similar rebore?
    Just curious from a machining perspective.

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    In retrospect, .287 to .308 was probably was not a good idea. BUT like a fool I thought an ethical firm would have done the "drill out" and scoped the hole. When severe pitting was still evident an ethical firm would have called the customer and said this is a NOGO and suggested going to 33 or 35.

    Instead these people just cut new rifling over the old pitting, did a 1/2 azz lapping job, charged me another 50 bucks to send it back and then, when confronted, gave me BS about old steel porosity.

    I am a member of MANY forums across the net. The word is out.

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    Was the bore slugged and mic'd before reaming out. If so, what was the ID of the bore on the lands and on the grooves?
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    Angry

    I have no idea what they DID but I know what they DID NOT do.

    1. After drilling they never scoped the hole.
    2. They rifled it over the old pitting.
    3. They lapped it with (looking at the scratches) 60 grit emery paper.
    4. They never inspected the finished job.
    5. They blamed their shoddy work on porus steel.
    6. They refuse to either fix it or refund my money.

    If you look at their shop on Facebook, it is not comforting.

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    done with it off to auction

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