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    To buy or not to buy

    Hi all,
    I am a really a Britishicon small arms guy, but it thought I should branch out. I would like a mosin. I wondered what the collective option was on the lot 1122 of Holts September sale. Here is the link, https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=A0921+++1122+&refno=++166462&saletype=
    I will post the photos. Mainly I would just appreciate opinions on what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micheal Doyne View Post
    Mainly I would just appreciate opinions on what it is.
    Not sure what you mean by opinion of what it is?

    It appears to be exactly what it's described as being, i.e a composite scoped M91/30.
    The issue is whether its a composite using genuine parts incl PU scope, or whether its a repro PU scope and mount. My guess based on the estimate is its a repro scope and mount?
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    I can't get the link to work. Does the scope have round-headed screws? If so, it's a repro....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    I can't get the link to work. Does the scope have round-headed screws? If so, it's a repro....
    Looks like a repro to me.......photos are not well taken, but the tube looks to be devoid of any markings whatsoever, and it does have the round head screws, and certainly none of the markings as seen in the various versions of the PU through the years from the different Sovieticon factories as noted on various websites.
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    The only markings I can make out on the scope are square with diagonals corner to corner, 53r N25704. My feeling is if it is genuine bits I'm keen, but if they are repro I would at least like to know before I bid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    I can't get the link to work.
    Here's a live link to try...

    HOLTS Auctioneers

    Do these pics help at all?
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    Thanks very much!

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    Year of the rifle is correct for a PU sniper
    Stock is correct (war era)
    Numbers all match for receiver, turned-down bolt and magazine

    I think the rifle is correct but the shiny stock and glossy metal finish worry me. The scope is a reproduction as indicated by the round-head screws which were not developed until after WW2. Hope that helps!

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    PU sniper rifles made by Ivehsk had the serial number on the scope (usually found on the left side between the forward and middle scope ring) stamped into the left side of the receiver shank. I don't see such a number on the scope or in the rifle's receiver, but the pictures are not very good either. There should also be a "C" with a circle around it stamped on the receiver. Once again, with the bad pictures, it's hard to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micheal Doyne View Post
    N25704
    Early on in the flood of Mosin's, a company in Ukraine who manufactured PU scopes in WW2 unmothbolled its equipment and made new production PU scopes. The distinguishing differences are the screw heads, as was already mentioned, and the serial numbers all started with "N". The bases can be recognized by a combination of milling marks that remained where they should have been smoothed out, and the rear "tabs" that would have been filed down in fitting providing the initial windage zero.

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